[cuban leaf]

Here’s the best alternative at this particular time in history: ICE

[Qwapisking]

greenest vehicle of all would be a Flintstonemobile. gonna need strong legs and calluses.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

“sustainable driving” — LOL. They are fixated on reducing petroleum consumption but ignore the hundreds of billions of tons of ore that must be dug up and refined to make “sustainable” cars at the front-end of manufacturing.

When you count ALL the raw materials used to make cars, transport raw materials, process the materials, build and maintain roads, over the lifetime of vehicles, you’ll find that EVs are no more “sustainable” than any other vehicle.

[glorgau]

> a range of 1,000 kilometers (621 miles) and a charging time of just 10 minutes.

It will be charged by lightening bolts. That’s about the equivalent to the current required.

[Leaning Right]

Solid-state batteries. Semi-solid-state batteries. Regardless of the type, where will the energy come from to charge all these devices?

Why is that never discussed? Oh, I see…

[BereanBrain]

LFP happen to have both he lowest cost for lithium and the longest lifetime in charge cycles.

For example, consider a battery with 3,000 - 10,000 charge cycles. (currently LFP can be recharged 3,000 times under non-optimal charging (read supercharging) and 10,000 times optimal (read overnight charging)).

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_iron_phosphate_battery for proof of my claim.

Ok, so what does that mean in terms of lifetime/cost?

Assume 1 charge cycle per day (that assume you drive over 200 miles in a day, which is 5x times the USA average of 39.7 miles. This means that you will get 8.2 years of battery lifetime, if using superchargers. Or 27.3 years if using overnight charging.

let’s say you instead of ~40 miles a day were a heavy user and drove 100 miles per day. That’s 985,500 miles - the so-called “Million Mile battery”.

In that time, you would have worn out 3-8 gasoline engines/transmissions.

Can electric motors last that long? Yes. You will wear out the running gear first probably, having to replace shocks, springs multiple times.

What’s the downside right now? LFP is not “immune” to fires, just like gasoline, it will burn in a wreck.

The desire for solid state batteries is that they won’t burn, at all, because it’s the electrolyte that burns.

I don’t advocate for government programs promoting electric cars, LET THE MARKET DECIDE.

[Bratch]

[Chauncey Gardiner]

The leapfrog in engine technology is with ICE. Witness Nissan’s remarkable variable compression engine and now Porche’s six stroke. Truly amazing.

[ducttape45]

There is a HUGE battery plant going up outside a large city in Indiana. I’m going to point my finger and stare them straight in the eye and say “I told you so” when the EV industry falls completely apart.

[PAR35]

semi-solid-state batteries, which use a hybrid design of solid electrolyte and liquid electrolyte.

Not exactly mixed electrolytes, but close - why not try solid lead plates in a liquid acid. That would be a hybrid design of solid and liquid.