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I'm with Williams and his supports on this one. Since using DNA in trials that has changed everything. One thing I know is during a stabbing there will be DNA from the person who did the stabbing everywhere and they did not find his? Who's DNA did they find?

I want solid evidence before we send someone to death. I don't think it was proven back then.

RIP MR Williams but remember God know your sins like he knows all of ours.

1 posted on 09/25/2024 9:27:13 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

On my first glance read of the headline I thought it said “Marcellus Wallace”.


2 posted on 09/25/2024 9:36:49 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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The St. Louis County prosecutor's office - which originally secured his conviction in 2001

Another misleading headline. It wasn't the "prosecutors" but the prosecutor's office that wanted the conviction overturned.

We have seen, since 2001 how the prosecutor's office in many localities, has been overtaken by liberal factions that almost literally decriminalize crime.

3 posted on 09/25/2024 9:37:11 AM PDT by pfflier
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1. I have seen no reports that any DNA was recovered at the scene.

2. I considered the defendant's case to be much stronger until I saw that his apologists in the article include a moron like Cori Bush and a Branch Covidian foreigner like Richard Branson.

6 posted on 09/25/2024 9:46:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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I am against the death penalty, and had Williams' sentence been changed to life without parole, it would have been just.

But, I think there are different ideas being presented that I believe are not being thoroughly examined. The evidence shows that Williams had both a purse belonging to the victim, and a laptop belonging to the victim's husband in his car. He sold that laptop several days after the murder. Those facts have not been explained in a way that indicates innocence. The testimony from his girlfriend indicated that he had blood on his shirt when she saw him soon after the murder had been committed. As for the jailhouse snitch, I don't think that's relevant. And as far as the bias at the trial, I think that's simply a common avenue to try to get a new trial.

This case has been looked at by many different people, and they have all come to the same conclusion-Williams is guilty of this murder.

9 posted on 09/25/2024 9:50:00 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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normally I am not on the same side as NAACP, but there are enough history of death penalty errors and men wrongfully executed that I would like to see an end to the death penalty altogether.


11 posted on 09/25/2024 9:50:47 AM PDT by rod5591
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The only DNA they found was from someone in the prosecutor’s office who handled the knife without gloves.


12 posted on 09/25/2024 9:51:27 AM PDT by DarrellZero (.)
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They claim it is racist every time a black gets arrested. In ATL, they stopped showing mug shots on the nightly news because they were 95% black, and they didn’t like the “image”. Now you look for code words, like “teens” or “youths”, or “a (state) man”. Still ~95%


15 posted on 09/25/2024 9:58:00 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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One thing I know is during a stabbing there will be DNA from the person who did the stabbing everywhere

Not at all necessarily.


16 posted on 09/25/2024 10:00:17 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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Thanks for being duped. Let’s look at some FACTS that your bleeding heart ignores:

- According to her testimony, Marcellus Williams confessed the murder to his girlfriend soon after committing his horrific crime once his girlfriend found Ms. Gayle’s purse in Williams’ car, but he also threatened to kill her and her family if she told anyone, readily explaining why his girlfriend did not approach law enforcement until Williams was in custody.

- The girlfriend never requested the reward for information about Ms. Gayle’s murder, despite claims that she was only interested in money.

- Gayle’s personal items were found in the trunk of Williams’ car.

- Williams sold Ms. Gayle’s husband’s laptop to another individual who later identified Williams as the seller.

Tell me again why you think this sadistic and evil murderer should have been spared.

Some people(YOU) are TOO gullible.


17 posted on 09/25/2024 10:00:46 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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The St. Louis County prosecutor's office - which originally secured his conviction in 2001

So the law and order prosecutors in the office in 2001, have retired and are now replaced by squishy DEI pro criminal prosecutors - who want to let the criminal go. NOPE

19 posted on 09/25/2024 10:03:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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In Matthew 6:14-15, Jesus spoke about forgiveness:

“If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.”

Over time as I’ve studied the teachings of Jesus and His apostles, I’ve changed from being pro-death penalty to anti-death penalty. I honestly don’t see how anyone claiming to be a Christian can support the death penalty.


21 posted on 09/25/2024 10:04:22 AM PDT by rod5591
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I want solid evidence...

Here is some solid evidence:
There's lots more evidence, but I don't have time to list them right now. The man undoubtedly was guilty of a heinous crime and received a justified penalty. As usual, the NAACP is trying to foment racial unrest leading up to an election.
22 posted on 09/25/2024 10:04:51 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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The prick was guilty as homemade sin. He even confessed. The case was meticulously reviewed.
Glad he is gone.

And he even got wings and tater tots for his last meal.
There’s just no pleasing some people.

Don’t fall for the libtard thing. Ever notice that every single low life on death row is innocent? Guess what? They aren’t.


24 posted on 09/25/2024 10:05:15 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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I haven’t researched this case, but those who oppose the death penalty push the notion that without DNA evidence, no conviction is legitimate. It is false that DNA will always be present, and that testing whatever was found will be definitive. Making it impossible to convict the guilty fails the cause of Justice just as much as framing the innocent.

Did the jury convict this guy on zero evidence? No fingerprints, none of the victim’s blood, hair, etc. on the murderer or his clothes, no murder weapon connected to the killer, no surveillance video, no witnesses, nothing to place him at the scene, solid alibi, nothing stolen from the scene found in his possession, no recorded conversations/confessions, no history of robberies and violence, no means motive or opportunity, etc.? I would think the 20+ years of appeals would have mentioned flaws in the total case rather than latch onto the unknown.


25 posted on 09/25/2024 10:06:04 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Re: "The execution of a death row inmate whose murder conviction has been doubted by the prosecutors that convicted him..."

Look at that language.

The Daily Mail makes it sound like the original prosecutors were claiming the murderer was innocent.

Completely bogus.

Bottom Line...

75% of USA murder scenes have zero DNA from the killer.

40%-50% of USA murders do not even result in a prosecution.

31 posted on 09/25/2024 10:15:00 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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I agree with you.

Sometimes the courts seem so obtuse to the people arguing before them. No, not every case needs to be re-tried. But when the prosecution shows up and says, “Maybe we did this guy wrong” I think it warrants examination.

I am not sure if the courts did that, or if they just blew it off. I also don’t understand by the governor didn’t hold up the process for a review.

Forensic evidence is compelling. In some cases, it slams the door shut on the defense. We should be looking at old cases and updating the forensics to see if they hold up. (Or point in another direction.)


45 posted on 09/25/2024 10:52:55 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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RIP?

Opus?


49 posted on 09/25/2024 11:01:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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I heard Marcellus was studying to find a cure for cancer.


50 posted on 09/25/2024 11:05:24 AM PDT by Mashood
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I believe it was the detectives who contaminated the evidence by picking the weapon up without gloves.


51 posted on 09/25/2024 11:05:27 AM PDT by 31R1O (The people who can control themselves ought to be able to defend themselves from those who can't.)
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How many of Branson’s relatives got the stabbing that this man handed out???


54 posted on 09/25/2024 11:44:14 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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