Posted on 09/24/2024 6:17:44 AM PDT by Red Badger
It’s not within the government’s limited range of authority to tell Americans what they can and cannot drive based on cars’ various energy sources. Yet policymakers issue mandates with no regard for the short leashes that should hold them back.
We definitely should see a lot more of these resolutions in congress.
But what kind of power does this resolution have?
Yes, the federal government really does not have the delegated power to tell car companies what to produce and yet they do it anyway.
However, the states do have that power............
Well I am all for repealing laws
But as long as the Democrats control the Senate I don't think it is possible.
;)
If California wants to commit suicide let them.
Yes, there are several nearby hotels within easy walking distance and maybe that’s the expected customers as opposed to just hanging around at the Circle K. Still, I haven’t seen anyone using them.
Give them free EVs and they STILL couldn’t charge them safely unless they turn off everything else in the house.
For hours.
True, home charging (safely) requires more than just an unused outlet. Average homeowners don't understand the difference in duty cycle that these charging rigs have, compared to, say, a 220v circuit for an electric clothes dryer or kitchen range. For those appliances, the heating element cycles on and off to maintain a set temperature - and you may use them for an hour or two. EV charging can take several times longer, maxing out the circuit's amperage the entire time. Throw in low quality, builder-grade breaker boxes, receptacles, aluminum wiring in the wrong place and some inattentive work by an electrician and stuff is going to melt and catch fire.
When we can fully charge an EV in 10 minutes and drive 400+ miles at 70 mph, in comfort and safety, then we will buy one. Sincerely,The Motoring Public..........
Or, be a basic around town, "point a to point b, not very fast, not very far", 2 person car, that I can get for $5K.
Almost half of the existing homes in thus country still have a 60A service.
Waves!!! 50 Amp main breaker here.
Give them free EVs and they STILL couldn’t charge them safely unless they turn off eveything else in the house.For hours.
5 miles of range per hour of being "plugged into the wall". I'd call that a worst case fallback option.
“When we can fully charge an EV in 10 minutes and drive 400+ miles at 70 mph, in comfort and safety, then we will buy one. Sincerely”
Still not enough, unless you live on the California Coast.
For the rest of the country, we’ll also need -20F operation (even colder in some places), +110F (even hotter in some places). Obviously AC and heater operation, cost in line with gasoline cars (including tires and private charging stations), maintenance in line with gasoline (meaning inventories and easy access to mechanics).
Almost forgot, us CONSERVATIVES do not want to destroy the environment, so we’ll want our EVs (including batteries) as clean as gasoline cars when manufactured, and as clean as gasoline cars when they’re finally disposed of (including battery recycling that makes ECONOMIC SENSE).
“My daughter and her husband recently rented an EV”
You need to have ‘the talk’ with your daughter - as renting an EV is about the only thing worse than actually owning one, as you’re totally dependent on finding charging stations.
https://caredge.com/guides/new-car-inventory-2024
https://caredge.com/guides/2024-models-with-the-most-remaining-inventory
“I passed 4 tesla in Steven’s Pass all with dead batteries waiting for a tow truck.”
If I had to guess, my thinking is that the charging stations near the pass were full or, more likely, inoperative. Then, the Tesla software, which gives range, didn’t bother to have been taught that the term “Pass”, as in “Steven’s Pass”, has an effect on range, as in huge effect,
“I am thinking you would need a 480 Volt power line or better to supply the necessary amperage to charge your car.”
I’m not sure, but think 480V is what the fast chargers already operate at, so you’ll need even higher voltage.
In fact, if you want to flow power at the same rate that gasoline is dispensed, you’ll need about 4.5 Megawatts to match that rate according to a quick calculation that I just did (unlike Leftists who push EVs, I learned math growing up). For those not familiar, 4.5 Megawatts is some SERIOUS power, as in Amps and Volts.
i’ll give up the horsepower and rumble of a v8 when they pry my cold dead hands from the steering wheel and shifter of any of my vehicles...
Yahbut that dang Trump will tariff it up the wazoo!
But he’ll also Make Gas Cheap Again so I won’t want an EV anymore.
You normally have to have a commercial account to have 480V service,
229V Service is max for residential service.
A different transformer is necessary for 480V service.
Even small commercial service is frequently 220V
You are correct that 3.4 Megawatts is serious power.
That is a good size marine Diesel engine.
For a visual of what that kind of power takes here is a page with an engine rated at 5.4 Megawatts electric (maximum output)
https://www.utilitywarehouse.com/info2/6mwdelavalhfo/6mwdelavalhfo.htm
#31 the gov’t when they build the 3 million homes low income homes will include the electric car fast charger and will also include high speed internet too....
Tesla would be well served to produce a hybrid version of their cars, in which a little gasoline would extend the range to 1000 miles (or more). Now that would be a game changer!
Thanks for the info and DAMN, that thing is huge!
Note also that it’s 13.8 kV, so you’re getting into voltages that were never meant for normal people to mess with, or even look at.
By the way, I think that most EVs are around 500V for their big batteries and drives.
I thought it would be helpful to see physical representation of what kind of power you were talking about.
We had three big diesels at work for generating emergency power. The big ones were just a little smaller than that one.
By the way thanks for doing the math.
It had not occurred to me to do that.
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