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Why There Will Never Be A Zero Emissions Electricity System Powered Mainly By Wind And Sun
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 21 Sep, 2024 | Francis Menton

Posted on 09/23/2024 4:28:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 09/23/2024 4:28:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The issue is never the issue. The real issue is the revolution.


2 posted on 09/23/2024 4:28:42 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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Well, Bill Gates has a solution to that.

Eliminate 80% of world population.

Such Insanity!


3 posted on 09/23/2024 4:31:47 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: MtnClimber

It is not about the environment, it is not about whether it even works or not, it is all about centralized power and control. It is just the vehicle they are using to do it.


4 posted on 09/23/2024 4:38:25 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Texas Fossil

Well, Bill Gates has a solution to that.

Eliminate 80% of world population.

If only he and the rest of the Davos crowd would walk the walk and get to the nearest suicide center...well, its at least a start...


5 posted on 09/23/2024 4:43:05 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: MtnClimber

New York is counting on using Canadian hydropower.

Of course, Canada might decide to go Greta and uses its own hydropower to do so. The Canadian national government could void the hydropower contracts made in Quebec.


6 posted on 09/23/2024 4:44:24 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Don't vote to be a tax slave on Kamala's plantation.)
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To: MtnClimber

each windmill takes 80 gallons of oil every year.


7 posted on 09/23/2024 4:47:31 AM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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“Eliminate 80% of world population.”

The spy novels and movies featuring James Bond were marvelous entertainment. Usually, there was some evil billionaire who had grandiose plans to take over the world. A lot of those plans involved killing huge segments of the population. If I recall “Moonraker” involved killing everyone and repopulating with weirdly happy looking gorgeous couples. The thing is the fantastically fast advance of technology and the huge concentration of capital in the hands of a few idiot savant billionaires puts all the tools necessary for such grandiosity into the hands of a few individuals.

It is impossible to legislate safety regulations to restrain people who can buy countries. Earlier this year an economist predicted we’d see the world’s first trillionaire by the end of 2025. I have no problem with people being incredibly rich. Most will invest and do mostly good things that will further jobs and employment. But sometimes they become weird activists like Gates. The Dunning Krugger effect kicks in and they bloviate about saving humanity...apparently by killing off humanity. The fact that Gates has said some threatening sounding things, and he’s invested in biomed makes me feel a bit creepy.


8 posted on 09/23/2024 4:48:00 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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EV batteries could be used to smooth out supply.

If you need to drive 20 miles the next day and 27 miles the following day and your EV has a range of 290 miles, a major part of 243 miles of electricity capacity could run your house.


9 posted on 09/23/2024 4:50:25 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (Don't vote to be a tax slave on Kamala's plantation.)
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“If you need to drive 20 miles the next day and 27 miles the following day and your EV has a range of 290 miles, a major part of 243 miles of electricity capacity could run your house.”

Generating electricity is cheaper than storing it.


10 posted on 09/23/2024 4:55:09 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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11 posted on 09/23/2024 5:02:06 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Bill Gates isn’t the only globalist who wants us dead.


12 posted on 09/23/2024 5:22:44 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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I love Manhattan Contrarian and the analysis, but "never" is a very long time.

If, at some point in the future, there are a couple of breakthoughs in battery tech, solar and wind could become viable energy sources.

They already are in specific situations.

Battery tech is increasing in incremental fashion. I expect the energy density of current batteries will be doubled in a decade.

13 posted on 09/23/2024 5:47:14 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: Gen.Blather
The thing is the fantastically fast advance of technology and the huge concentration of capital in the hands of a few idiot savant billionaires puts all the tools necessary for such grandiosity into the hands of a few individuals.

Some argue that the real wealth in the world isn’t in the hands of people like Bill Gates. Global wealth - in the trillions (allegedly $454 trillion in 2022), is in the hands of very old bloodlines. These are the people that Gates and other billionaires get their marching orders from - the trillionaire families that own most of the world’s wealth.

14 posted on 09/23/2024 6:35:31 AM PDT by yelostar (TRUMP/VANCE 2024)
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“These are the people that Gates and other billionaires get their marching orders from “

I’ve known some wealthy people. They don’t take marching orders from nobody. People who aren’t dependent on a wage job, even if they’re not “wealthy” in the sense of multimillionaires* or billionaires, don’t feel the need to bow to anyone. Think about the egos we’ve witnessed from the public appearances of guys like Gates. Can you see them taking marching orders from anyone?

* I don’t consider someone with a mere million or two to be “wealthy” in the sense that they can just drop everything and jet off to some far away exotic location. They’re just upper middle class. Thank the government for doubling, and then doubling again the money supply. What used to be, say, a half million in savings is now a million and a half, but no net gain in purchasing value. If you don’t think so, price a luxury truck.


15 posted on 09/23/2024 6:46:04 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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***But the back-up source will by hypothesis be woefully underused and idle most of the time so long as most of the electricity comes from wind and sun.***

The back up sources would have to be natural gas or nuke plants as a coal fired plant requires three or four days to start up from a cold start. From a hot start it still requires as long as 8 to12 hours to get it back up to full efficiency.


16 posted on 09/23/2024 6:53:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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"...I expect the energy density of current batteries will be doubled in a decade.

Then they will be twice as deadly. Because energy resents confinement and wants to be free.

17 posted on 09/23/2024 8:01:07 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Posted on April 24, 2021 by John Hinderaker in Energy Policy

Why Wind and Solar Energy Are Doomed to Failure

Wind and solar energy are both essentially obsolete technologies. There is a reason why only the very rich or the very adventurous sail across oceans: the wind is unreliable, and at best produces relatively little energy. Nevertheless, liberals have concocted fantasies whereby all of our electricity, or perhaps our entire economy, will be powered by those fickle sources.

There are a number of reasons why this will never happen, but a paper published last week by Center of the American Experiment argues that land use constraints are the most basic reason why wind and solar are inexorably destined to fail. The paper, titled Not In Our Backyard, is authored by internationally recognized energy expert Robert Bryce, producer of the terrific documentary Juice: How Electricity Explains The World and the book A Question of Power: Electricity and the Wealth of Nations....


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/why-wind-and-solar-energy-are-doomed-to-failure.php


(links to the various resoures cited are available at the original)

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Also telling is they've hijacked another word with a long-established meaning and mis-redefined it for their own nefarious purposes.

"Renewables."

The First Law of Thermodynamics, ΔU = Q - W. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

So why does a thing that can be neither created nor destroyed need "renewing?"

The simple answer is, it doesn't. Wackadoodle re-definitions like they've created for "assault weapon" and "gender equality" and "environmental justice" and "renewable energy" are nothing but flag poles to rally the sheeple around.

It's a head-feint. What magicians call "misdirection," a gunshot in the back of the auditorium while Houdini leads the elephant off the stage.

And it's a certain sign you're being hoodwinked.

18 posted on 09/23/2024 11:53:45 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Nuclear is the only possible source that can provide enough power to run a 21st-Century lifestyle even when you take into consideration population growth and depletion (or compromise) of natural resources.

19 posted on 09/23/2024 4:49:29 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Gen.Blather

He is evil. And he is powerful.

His father was involved in Eugenics. Long ago. The propaganda likely affected Bill at an early stage.

He is deep into the Globalist Cabal’s Propaganda and Lies.

He cares not about humanity.


20 posted on 09/23/2024 7:34:19 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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