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Undercover as a farm worker in Germany: ‘My hands are numb. No one knows when the shift will end’
The Guardian ^ | 18th September 2024 | Sasa Uhlova

Posted on 09/18/2024 4:55:19 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: Cronos

Germans have a history of using Poles for slave labor.


41 posted on 09/18/2024 8:56:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ansel12

The Southerner
Got it on DVD! Good movie! Hard time watching it as it is so true.
I remember reading of a land owner who let out his fields to sharecroppers. When they had the crops planted and growing he would force them off the property and take in the crops for himself. Dirty business.
A landowner did that to dad. Mom was so mad she went out and dug up the entire garden they had planted.


42 posted on 09/18/2024 9:24:16 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: central_va

Exactly. If we paid $100 an hour to pick lettuce. We would be turning people away. Heck I would be out there picking lettuce.

But lettuce would cost I don’t know $20 a head.

Pay $7 an hour and you have few willing to do the work.

Somewhere between $7 and $100 is a solid number that will attract good workers happy for the job. The price of lettuce will reach its appropriate point.


43 posted on 09/18/2024 10:11:24 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

Somewhere between $7 and $100 is a solid number that will attract good workers happy for the job. The price of lettuce will reach its appropriate point.


Or you develop a technology to pick the lettuce without the need to hire pickers.


44 posted on 09/18/2024 10:14:58 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Yes re technology.

But it’s not a magic wand. Someone must design, build,
Deliver, service, repair, and operate it.


45 posted on 09/18/2024 10:19:11 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: God luvs America

Und dann vee vill dig zum more, ja!


46 posted on 09/18/2024 10:35:54 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: redfreedom

Nothing illegal is ever ‘’good’’.


47 posted on 09/18/2024 10:37:37 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: Persevero
But lettuce would cost I don't know $20 a head.

No it wouldn't. Do the math.

The math:

Let's say a picker picks ( i am making these number up because the real numbers are hidden from us, try searching for it ) 300 heads of lettuce per hour.

The picker makes $15/hr, so the per head cost is 15/300 or 5 cents per head.

Now lets give him $100/hr, the per head cost is 100/300 or 33 cents per head.

So lettuce would cost 33 - 5 = 27 cents more per head retail. See how it works?

48 posted on 09/18/2024 10:44:03 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: dfwgator
Picking machines leads to genetically altered hardened tasteless tough fruit. Great.
49 posted on 09/18/2024 10:51:07 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

I wondered where you were central...so glad you chimed in with your brilliant analysis. Could you please educate us what a “decent wage” is for picking apples or peaches? You can use numbers based on what you see SC peaches available at the VA farmers markets or just pull them from wherever you store your vast knowledge of farming and economics.


50 posted on 09/18/2024 11:34:19 AM PDT by small farm girl
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To: central_va

Sure I was just speaking in general terms.


51 posted on 09/18/2024 11:38:34 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: small farm girl

The math:

Let’s say a picker picks ( i am making these number up because the real numbers are hidden from us, try searching for it ) 300 heads of lettuce per hour.

The picker makes $15/hr, so the per head cost is 15/300 or 5 cents per head.

Now lets give him $100/hr, the per head cost is 100/300 or 33 cents per head.

So lettuce would cost 33 - 5 = 27 cents more per head retail. See how it works?


52 posted on 09/18/2024 11:40:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Oh! You were making it up? NO ONE COULD TELL! Especially when you got to the 300 heads of lettuce an hour. 5 heads a minute is pretty ambitious, but it would be great to see you do it, and not just for 1 hour, but 4...then lunch hour, then back at it for another 4. 😉 McDonald’s need more consultants like you, telling them if employees would just make 10 times more burgers in an hour minimum wage could be $100/hour at all fast food restaurants. I see how it works 💪 /sarc tag likely necessary for ya


53 posted on 09/18/2024 11:44:49 AM PDT by small farm girl
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To: small farm girl
You cant find real numbers on the web because they are hidden. The point is wages can go up 5 TIMES for pickers but that only translates to a small 10-15 cent increase PER head picked.

Greed kills. Kills people, souls, nations.

54 posted on 09/18/2024 11:48:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I am with you on #2 and #3. Sadly, we struggle with our American help calling out for every reason under the sun, and from easy work too, like watering flowers or retail.
BTW, this article disgusted me and why I commented about our current SOA, also, employers pay all the travel costs, visa fees, and housing costs for H2A, there is no "buy in"...or at least with us.
55 posted on 09/18/2024 11:50:41 AM PDT by small farm girl
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To: small farm girl
You know my numbers work for whatever amount of heads picked per hour. I can help you with the math if you need help.
56 posted on 09/18/2024 11:52:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: StAnDeliver

Ya, maybe. I don’t know any abattoirs in New England that have H2A help cutting meat, but I’m sure it happens in much bigger facilities...is it better than illegals at Tyson? Maybe? At least you know they are here and will be leaving and not sucking off the rest of us. I’m just looking to end the excuse for illegals the best way I can think of, it makes me sick. I had someone ask me straight faced if I was going to hire any of the “newcomers” to MA, I said I’d buy them a ticket home first, spit.


57 posted on 09/18/2024 11:59:05 AM PDT by small farm girl
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To: small farm girl

The new slaver class. Order your new Lexus yet?


58 posted on 09/18/2024 12:01:12 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Cronos

Crops ripen and must be picked as fast as possible once they do.

They won’t wait for your weekend break.


59 posted on 09/18/2024 12:01:37 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: central_va

Did something happen to you at a high school job or something we should know about? You always seem unhinged and overly vitriolic when this topic comes up. And, try as you might, you cannot pin illegals on me, NEVER have hired any, nope, not one. It is why I often post about the guest worker program as the reason why there is NO NEED for illegal immigration.


60 posted on 09/18/2024 12:05:29 PM PDT by small farm girl
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