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Yacht Rock Essentials: “We Just Disagree,” Rock Journeyman Dave Mason’s Biggest Hit
American Songwriter ^ | September 1, 2024 | Jim Beviglia

Posted on 09/04/2024 5:03:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway

There are some artists who released many songs throughout their career that clearly fit into the yacht rock template. And then there are a few who kind of accidentally dipped their toes into that warm ocean water. Dave Mason, a British classic rocker, probably stands as one of the most unlikely Yacht Rock standard-bearers, thanks to his 1977 hit “We Just Disagree.”

What is the song about? Who wrote it? And how did it go against the grain of what Mason usually released? Here is the story of one of the most heartbreaking yacht rock standards, “We Just Disagree.”

Mason’s Journey

Dave Mason’s track record will stun you. On the surface level, he’s best known as an early member of Traffic and a songwriter whose best tracks, “Feelin’ Alright” and “Only You Know and I Know,” were recorded by others and turned into classics. But dig a little deeper, and you’ll find it’s as impressive a CV as you’ll find.

He played on indelible tracks by Jim Hendrix, The Rolling Stones, George Harrison, Paul McCartney, and many others. Top acts returned the favor, with luminaries like Harrison, Graham Nash, and Stevie Wonder playing on his solo stuff. Mason even ended up in Fleetwood Mac for a cup of coffee in the ’90s.

As a solo act, he had a hard time gaining commercial traction in the ’70s, at least until record mogul Clive Davis signed him at Columbia Records. But the mercurial Davis left the label not long after, leaving Mason a bit adrift at the label but still owing them a lot of material. Luckily, he found some help from a new member of his band.

The Bruiser to the Rescue

Mason’s first album for Columbia, It’s Like You Never Left in 1973, was an all-star affair. When it failed to do much sales-wise, Mason decided to put together a regular backing band that could take material out on the road. One of his new cohorts was a guitar player named Jim Krueger, nicknamed “The Bruiser,” who also offered some songwriting ability.

When Mason was making his 1977 album Let It Flow, Krueger came forward with a heartsick ballad for inclusion. “We Just Disagree” wasn’t typical of what Mason usually delivered around that time, as he was more known for a kind of free-flowing rock approach than straightforward slow stuff. But, as he told Songfacts, he didn’t hesitate for a second when he heard Krueger’s track:

“I did it because I thought it was a great song. An unusual chord arrangement behind it. And it stood up—it was a song that when he sang it to me, it was like, ‘Yeah, that’s the song.’ Just him and a guitar, which is usually how I judge whether I’m going to do something. If it holds up like that I’ll put the rest of the icing on it.”

What is the Meaning of “We Just Disagree”?

Mason and Krueger, who, as traveling musicians, had seen their fair share of heartbreak, gravitated to this tale of two ex-lovers undergoing a stilted reunion. The guy struggles to make sense of how they went from such intimacy to this distance: Don’t seem the same, seems you’ve lost your feel for me.

Krueger’s lyrics cycle through the emotional spectrum, as he naturally treats her with kindness, only to remember all the bad stuff that’s gone down between them: Have you got a place to stay? / Why should I care when I’m just trying to get along. In the refrains, he decides it’s best that they stay apart rather than trying to tiptoe through the old land mines: So let’s leave it alone ’cause we can’t see eye to eye / There ain’t no good guy / There ain’t no bad guy / There’s only you and me and we just disagree.

Jim Krueger passed away in 1993 at only 43 years old, meaning he didn’t live quite long enough to witness the yacht rock sensation that gave his most famous song second life. As for Dave Mason, “We Just Disagree,” a Top-20 hit, became a signature song for him, despite it being somewhat uncharacteristic of most of his output.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: 70s; davemason; rock; softrock; traffic; yachtrock
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To: FoxInSocks

Do they explain the factors they use judge the songs?


21 posted on 09/04/2024 7:49:12 PM PDT by deks (Deo duce, ferro comitante · God for guide, sword for companion)
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To: nickcarraway

I listen to Music Choice on cable (during long commercials). They have a Yacht Rock channel. I still don’t know what it is.


22 posted on 09/04/2024 8:09:58 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: nickcarraway

I think this one qualifies as a lost Yacht Rock classic.

https://youtu.be/6mR-cjU9keo?si=aV8e1R6PhFcoHTBb


23 posted on 09/04/2024 9:32:26 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan wasRivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Smooooooth music 🛥️

I was a teenager in South Florida in the late 70’s. My whole day to day life was one never ending Yacht Rock song.

I hated it!!

My fantasy was to be a teenager in London in the mid 60’s!

Now it cracks me up knowing that people from the Midwest who loved this stuff were fantasizing about living my life.


24 posted on 09/04/2024 9:42:28 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan wasRivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: nickcarraway

I preferred Mystic Traveler.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=odk8yO9MRAM&pp=ygUPTXlzdGljIHRyYXZlbGVy


25 posted on 09/04/2024 10:31:23 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: The Fop

I grew up in Hialeah, graduated 1980, drove. Motorcycle everywhere


26 posted on 09/05/2024 6:46:58 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Magic Fingers
Best album of the 70s “Alone together” love every song on it. Mason has the perfect rock voice.
27 posted on 09/05/2024 7:20:25 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: xoxox

Amen, night and day.


28 posted on 09/05/2024 10:30:18 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: FoxInSocks
Fair point. If the originators of the term itself say it ain't...then it ain't.

But it is still smooth dreck.

29 posted on 09/05/2024 10:43:22 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Keyhopper

I’m class of ‘79. North Miami Beach HS...Home of the Chargers!

LOL, Jewish kids didn’t ride motorcycles!

I had a ‘71 Sedan DeVille. It was my dad’s, then my mom’s, and then mine. Amazing pickup.

I glued incense burners to the top of the dashboard and used a sharpee to draw a keyboard, so that I could pretend I was playing Keith Emerson solos. The cops automatically searched my car whenever I got pulled over. Good times!


30 posted on 09/05/2024 12:24:50 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan wasRivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: nickcarraway

The good old days when Midnight Special was live and they actually played and sang.

Years later they went to lip syncing.


31 posted on 09/05/2024 12:36:42 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Clay Bevis and Cuck Butthead are panty wadded, pearl clutching cowards. Rush deserves better.)
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To: nickcarraway
First time I heard Mason's "Baby Please" on WMMR radio In,I think 1973 I said that's what I like and that's what I want to play! I've been playing guitar ever since. I met Dave Mason about 10 years ago when he was doing a small gig at a Casino in West Virginia. He was a bit smart ass at first and I said "Oh sorry I bothered you I get it now." He looked up at me and said "don't go anywhere." After the crowd filtered out he called me over and I got some swell pics and we talked a bit.
32 posted on 09/05/2024 12:46:42 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Arise and shine,and give God the glory!-A trail cook's morning call.)
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To: The Fop

We use to hang at Haulover beach. About halfway between the pier and the jetties there was an offset in the wall. We always hung there to keep an eye on the bikes, the was about 8 of us. I use to work for nmb water department. Spent lots of time in north Miami and nmb


33 posted on 09/05/2024 3:54:23 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: deks

Sure. They discuss a handful of songs every week, and talk about why they think it is or isn’t yacht rock. The criteria are very consistent. There’s been a few iterations of a podcast — the active one is Yacht or Nyacht Podcast. I like the genre, so I usually keep up with it.


34 posted on 09/05/2024 5:06:49 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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