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To: hardspunned

In WWII, the Nazis had a big offensive push in 1943 on the Eastern Front which felt rather promising at the start but ended up as a defeat which chewed up a tremendous amount of German military resources at the Battle of Kursk.

In 1944, the Nazis had a big offensive push through the Ardennes on the Western Front which felt rather promising at the start but ended as as a defeat which chewed up the last of the German military resources at the Battle of the Bulge.

Here we are in 2024, the Ukrainians push a salient into Russia at Kursk but trap a large amount of their own military resources there, just as western allies start to lose their incentive for replacing these resources.


4 posted on 08/31/2024 9:43:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (My decisions about people are based almost entirely on skin color. I learned this from Democrats.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It’s so refreshing to see someone put it all together the way you just did. Good Job! This my rather fanciful take on the ‘24 Kursk Pocket:

Last summer the Ukes made a very similar type incursion towards Belgorod. Supposedly, there was some type nuclear material that could be had if their mad dash was fast enough. It wasn’t.

Although much larger, it’s the same operation. Who can’t handicap that boob Z’s moves? In the desperate situation the Ukes were in, the Russians figured they’d bait him into a trap with the Kursk Nuclear PP. The Russians probably also figured the PR opportunity would be a great lure as well. We all saw the insufferable western crowing and strutting. That’s was certainly something Z desperately wanted.

The area is as desolate, unpopulated and as undeveloped as any on the battle lines. It is heavily wooded, lots of streams and hills. It’s lousy for maneuver except for the one road in.

The Russians pulled troops back and let their defenses fall into disarray perhaps, the come hither facade. The Ukes took the bait. The Ukes came barreling down the one road with the very best equipment and troops they could peel off the Belarus front and Donbas lines as the Russians let the Ukes chase them.

Any hope of getting to the nuclear plant were gone three days in as the column bogged down and the Ukes started expanding their flanks out into the countryside until they reached the Russian forces edge of their pocket. Over the last week the forward movement of the Ukes stopped. The Russians are holding them there, killing them. The Russians aren’t interested in closing the pocket while Z continues to feed the slaughterhouse.

The armor that the Russians especially wanted to draw off has been mauled. The same thing will happen to the troops in the pocket when the Russians get around to collapsing it.

This is the best rope a dope action since the Rumble in the Jungle,


5 posted on 08/31/2024 9:54:14 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months)
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To: ClearCase_guy

As long as the USA backs them to the hilt—they can lose all they have and be instantly replaced with newer and better weapons. Big problem is people to man the new weapons and use them. Get the draft dodgers back from nations where they hid. Lower age of conscription to 18. Include women this time. Cancel all college deferments—draft whole student bodies, teachers too, men and women. A nation in arms to meet the new threat. Then draft all high school seniors, Boys and girls. USA will provide the uniforms and weapons, maybe some CIA or MI5 trainers to give them a quick training before sending them into battle. Next use robots, USA will provide them at the phone call from Zelenskyy. Organize more Mercenaries from 3rd world to fill in the ranks. The cities of Ukraine should only be filled with elderly and small children.


6 posted on 08/31/2024 9:56:07 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If any lesson can be drawn form this it would be that in the main Germany, the Ukrainians and Russians SUCK when it come to waging war.
16 posted on 08/31/2024 11:11:50 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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