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Throughout the war, Putin has wanted to negotiate. After Zelensky's canceled the presidential election this year, and his term in office expired May 20, Putin said Zelensky is not legitimately president of Ukraine, and that he (Putin) would negotiate with someone else on behalf of Ukraine. Finally, it seemed the West had prevailed up on Zelensky to negotiate, days after Zelensky's office told China's officials that the Ukraine was focused on negotiations, the Ukraine crossed the border into Russia in their operation to seize the Kursk nuclear power plant.

Some of the foreign mercenaries with Zelensky's incursion forces were shooting at citizens, ambulances, fire trucks etc. and the Ukrainian forces have repeatedly tried to reach the Kursk nuclear power plant, while others damaged the Zaporozhna (sp) nuclear power plant in the Ukraine.

As a result, Putin said it's not possible to negotiate with the Ukrainians, that their incursion team are behaving like terrorists, not a military, therefore they are deemed terrorists and the Geneva convention do not protect them.

Now, Zelensky's advisor has posted in ENglish, on X, the Ukrainian's justification for the attack - they were just trying to get 'fair negotiations' from Putin.

Below Pedolyak's X.com pos, I thought this post made a valid point:

Earlier today, I came across this comment from FReeper McGruff which I believe makes a painful, but fairly accurate point.

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4259220/posts, McGruff wrote:

Current analysis of Ukraine’s offensive into Russia.

https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1825267668137513421



1 posted on 08/18/2024 3:20:46 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: delta7; Kazan; Allegra; bimboeruption; Rocco DiPippo; aMorePerfectUnion

PING in case you’re interested.


2 posted on 08/18/2024 3:21:43 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

The jokes are writing themselves now.


3 posted on 08/18/2024 3:26:34 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: ransomnote

Let’s get it done and get out of there.


5 posted on 08/18/2024 3:35:34 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ransomnote

Great video!! No zeepers seem to have a problem with all those Ukrainian men who are expected to fight for the country that won’t even let them vote. Sounds an awful lot like Hitler suspending elections from 1938 on, but sending thousands of men to their death on WWII battlefields.


6 posted on 08/18/2024 3:35:45 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Kazan
Heh, Podolyak!

Are there meeny houses for me in Kursk?

7 posted on 08/18/2024 3:42:05 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: ransomnote

Perfect analysis of NATO and the West raising everything that was once Ukraine to the ground. Ukraine is squeezed between those who bought it and its government who is selling it out. When NATO and Zelinski are thru with Ukraine, the country won’t exist but those who pushed it to war will be rich. If there are any Ukrainians left in what will once be former Ukraine, at least they won’t own anything and they will be happy just to be alive.


8 posted on 08/18/2024 3:43:15 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: ransomnote

The electors are not bound. They can nomonate who they like.


9 posted on 08/18/2024 3:55:38 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ransomnote

More likely, Zelensky will go down in history as the guy whose negotiating skills rid the world of Nazi Ukraine.


10 posted on 08/18/2024 3:56:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: ransomnote

Ukraine is in no position to make demands.


11 posted on 08/18/2024 4:00:34 PM PDT by McGruff (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: ransomnote

I’m surprised Russia is not mounted a serious response to this.


18 posted on 08/18/2024 6:08:25 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: ransomnote

Interesting perspective. I’m not sure I believe it, but everything reported in this conflict has been somewhat suspect.

Of course, like many of us, I’d like to see this come to an equitable and peaceful conclusion. I don’t trust either side to do that, but I keep hoping that they can.

Thank you for your post.


19 posted on 08/18/2024 6:50:30 PM PDT by Allegra
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@Podolyak_M, an adviser to Zelensky, said the Kursk operation is needed to convince Russia to start fair talks

What did it do instead?

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/08/ukraine-sitrep-kursk-attack-derailed-partitial-ceasefire-deal.html#more

The Ukrainian incursion into Russia's Kursk oblast has even worse consequences for Ukraine than had been known so far.

Over the last six months, in revenge for Ukrainian attacks on Russian infrastructure, especially oil refineries, the Russian forces created serious damage on Ukraine's electricity network. Nearly every conventional power generation facility in Ukraine has been damaged. Half of Ukraine's 18 Gigawatts of electricity generation capacity has been taken offline. The damaged power stations were often also used to provide heating to large blocks of Soviet type apartments. Without power and heating it will be a very difficult winter for many people in Ukraine.

There was interest on both sides to stop the campaigns against the other sides infrastructure. An agreement about it was in the making and was possible. But, as Washington Post reports, the Ukrainian attack on Kursk blew it apart:

Ukraine and Russia were set to send delegations to Doha this month to negotiate a landmark agreement halting strikes on energy and power infrastructure on both sides, diplomats and officials familiar with the discussions said, in what would have amounted to a partial cease-fire and offered a reprieve for both countries.

But the indirect talks, with the Qataris serving as mediators and meeting separately with the Ukrainian and Russian delegations, were derailed by Ukraine’s surprise incursion into Russia’s western Kursk region last week, according to the officials.

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The diplomat familiar with the talks said that Qatar has been discussing the arrangement for an energy strike moratorium with Kyiv and Moscow for the past two months. The official said the two sides agreed to a summit in Doha with just minor details left to be worked out.

“After Kursk, the Russians balked,” another person familiar with the talks said.

22 posted on 08/18/2024 7:29:08 PM PDT by Kazan
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