Posted on 08/17/2024 6:29:00 AM PDT by MtnClimber
“I surrender,” Marty said, putting his hands up, blood streaking down his cheek, “You got me good.”
Marty, according to Joshua Mundy and Jay Carnicom, allegedly arrived at in the Days Inn parking lot in Fort Wayne, Indiana, that day to meet a 13-year-old girl for sex. Instead, he met Dads Against Predators (DAP), an organization that confronts alleged pedophiles and films the encounters for social media.
Public humiliation is the primary MO for the vast majority of vigilante pedophile hunters, but DAP is different. These guys draw blood, often releasing videos where they openly assault their targets. The Marty sting was brutal.
The Daily Caller is withholding images and identification of some alleged predators, including Marty’s video, because some appearing in this story have neither been charged nor convicted of a crime.
A Daily Caller review of dozens of these kinds of videos from various sting groups shows that while exchanges typically get testy, they almost never get violent. For DAP, however, the moment things get testy, they immediately start pounding on their marks.
Carnicom and Mundy had been posing as an underage girl on a dating app, a tactic they’ve deployed hundreds of times, to lure Marty into a public appearance. Once they had Marty out in the open, they confronted him about what they say were a number of inappropriate texts he allegedly sent them.
Mundy began reading Marty’s alleged texts aloud. “‘You’re fucking sexy,’ to a 13-year-old girl,” Mundy recited. “‘I don’t want to go to jail,'” Mundy continued reading. “‘You’re gonna be fine,’ little girl.'”
“You’re calling little girls ‘babe?'” Carnicorn asked.
“Hey! This man is here to meet a 13-year-old girl!” Mundy yelled, a staple shaming tactic Mundy has used hundreds of times throughout his five-year career of catching and exposing alleged pedophiles on the internet.
Marty continued to walk away as the pedophile hunters egged him on to call the police. “Leave me alone,” Marty pleaded before trying to run away. His short dash didn’t last long, as he soon turned around and raised his fists to fight.
The two pedophile hunters, both holding iPhones to record the encounter, quickly accepted the invitation. A storm of punches rained on Marty’s face, opening a large gash under his eye.
DAP informs Marty that the cops are on their way, at which point he flees.
Though the hunters referred Marty’s case to detectives, police in Indiana did not file charges. Years later, he allegedly again unknowingly alerted DAP while they were posing as another underaged girl on a dating app, but Marty left the chat when DAP revealed the girl’s age, DAP alleged.
The Daily Caller reached out to Marty to hear his side of the story but did not hear back by time of publication. Marty is one of many targets of DAP sting operations who did not face criminal charges. The Daily Caller is withholding his full identity since he has neither been charged nor convicted of a crime.
Dads Against Predators smack a sting operation target in a parking lot. Screenshot/Twitter/@jaycarnicomdap
The rapid rise in social media content consumption in the last decade has birthed some unique phenomena: Teenagers now become multi-millionaires by playing video games. Women turn their 15 minutes of fame into lucrative OnlyFans careers. And now, 17 years after the final episode of NBC’s “To Catch A Predator,” online pedophile hunters can publicly shame their targets and share the content to the masses.
Their videos once languished on the back-burner of social media algorithms, a casualty of a censor-happy media climate. Now, as Americans increasingly reject Big Tech censorship, the number of vigilante pedophile hunters are blowing up, reaching users’ feeds across the globe as they watch their follower counts rocket skyward.
Alex Rosen of I Fight For Kids, for instance, has gained significant followings across various platforms. X, however, is where accounts like his and DAP’s have made their biggest strides, particularly in the Elon Musk era.
Rosen’s account, @iFightForKids, has amassed over 315,000 followers. That’s up from 6,500 in July 2022, according to analytics firm SocialBlade.
The numerous online predator hunters deploy markedly different approaches to their craft. Rosen, for example, doesn’t ever lay hands on his targets. DAP, on the other hand, has no problem getting violent.
In one case, Mundy roundhouse kicked an alleged predator in the skull, knocking him out cold.
“I’ve kicked several predators in the face,” Mundy told the Daily Caller.
DAP accuses their targets of soliciting underage children in their videos, but some haven’t been formally charged with a crime. Because of this, the Daily Caller blurred their faces throughout this story and chose not to include or link out to any full videos of the pedophile hunts for legal reasons.
Despite meting out most of the violence, members of DAP have also suffered injuries, at least in one case significant enough for a hospital visit.
“My partner got shot. I had to wrestle a gun from a guy,” Mundy said. “The shot took place so close to his leg, it almost looks like a shotgun blast.”
The widely covered June 2022 incident occurred at a Target department store in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
“The guy went on a high-speed chase with us after he tried to shoot us. I had to jump on him, wrestle him. It’s a whole thing,” Mundy explained. “It’s hard to even tell the story, because there are some stories in my life … imagine having a ghost story. You don’t like telling it because it sounds fake.”
DAP’s critics wonder how they get away with assaulting their marks, but Mundy said it’s highly unlikely that people caught in vigilante stings would call the cops on him. He told the Caller that cops did arrest him once, but the charges were dropped.
North Carolina police issued warrants for “simple affray” for Mundy and his two colleagues following the Target shooting, according to My Fox 8.
“The number one question I hear all the time is, ‘How do you get away with hitting them?’ But the reality is [for] assault … they gotta press charges. They gotta call the cops, right? So I can call the cops, report my stuff and send the police my videos. All the time the police ask for my videos, and obviously I’m smacking predators in these videos, but the police can’t watch the video and be like, ‘He’s hitting somebody, so that’s assault,’ or else they would charge everybody on WWE with assault every Monday,” Mundy said.
“Even if they press charges, okay, I bond out. I get a lawyer. I fight it. Now I subpoena them in court. I make them talk about it by the file in court. So I guess there’s ways that they could do it, but I’m always prepared for that,” he concluded.
Rosen disagrees with this tactic. He argues it leads to a lower conviction rate.
“I think hitting them … don’t get me wrong; I want to murder these people,” Rosen explained. “[But] this society that we’re in, hitting them is the dumbest thing you can do, because all it does is just let them walk.”
“All it takes is a defense attorney saying, ‘Oh, they only lured my guy here because they wanted to get quick, easy views and just slap him around. They don’t even care about questioning the guy.’ So there’s a lot of things that can go wrong.”
Despite his non-violent ethos, Rosen, like Mundy, has also stared down the wrong end of a gun. At least two of his targets have pulled firearms on him, one in Oregon in 2022 and another in June in Massachusetts, he told the Caller.
“The pedo got arrested on a bunch of penalties for that. So I didn’t complain,” Rosen said.
Rosen estimated that of his near-600 busts, police arrested more than 100 of the alleged predators. Some, like 56-year-old Arkansas man Jimmy Dewayne Stevens, go away for a long time. An Arkansas judge sentenced Stevens to 35 years in prison for possession of child pornography after Rosen caught him..............[more at link]
They won’t get Bill Clinton or Joe Biden. They have Secret Service protection.
Ive seen a few of these. You cant go around beating on people. Somebodys gonna get shot doing that.
And yes, as they said in the article, there actually have been a few shots fired. But they've also gone after hundreds of these guys, so they've managed to accomplish an awful lot of good. The one guy they detected a second time actually dropped out when he learned the girl's age. Deterrence by ass-beating works.
I should add that I actually am a lawyer, too. Lol
Justice for some evil individuals will not be meted out by government.
When I misbehaved as a child and got my tail beat, I didn’t repeat that offense.
Better to little girls get sexually assaulted, I suppose, eh?
These men are filling a vacuum that the state ignores, if not actively promotes.
When the police and courts won't act, the people must.
Fix the "legal" system and this vigilante crap vanishes.
Former Rochester police officer sentenced to 10 weekends in jail for raping 13-year-old
When the government doesn’t protect the people through legal means, people will protect themselves.
Me thinks police don’t file charges, nor do Soros DA’s.
In Kamala’s America, it is these dads who will face prison time. The pedophiles will not be prosecuted.
"That's not who we are."
"We're better than this."
"Tsk. Tsk. Well I never ..."
It seems child trafficking is a big part of our open borders. There are hundreds of thousands of children that have just gone missing.
*These men are filling a vacuum that the state ignores, if not actively promotes.*
*When the government doesn’t protect the people through legal means, people will protect themselves.*
Vigilantism always works in a vacuum. It’s not good but it works at first. Does the end justify the means? Just look at how the NY subways became safer when Bernie Goetz did his thing.
Stake out church youth group leaders, youth coaches, and law enforcement officers.
Mostly people don't really give a crap what adults do to each other, mostly.
Animals and children?
That's different. (IIRC, animal cruelty laws we first passed when an advocate brought in a badly abused child and rubbed what cruelty looks like in the faces of the congress critters)
kinda sorta reminds me of what was once called “gay-bashing” back in the day, early 70’s, IIRC.
I had friends - former friends - who would go to locations known as homosexual hangouts (local parks, clubs, beach bathrooms) around St. Pete, FL, get the attention of some cruiser and after going off to some preselected location a gang of guys would jump the homosexual, beat him within an inch of his life.
It’s how we all found out for sure a couple of guys in our high school were homosexuals while everyone’s “gaydar” was going off, they maintained enough decoy “girlfriends” and normal guy friends as camouflage nobody really knew until they showed up to school on Monday bruised/battered and making up stories about how it happened.
Again, this was once considered “normative” behavior among heterosexuals.
Democrats, libturds, foresee a time when pedophiles they refer to euphemistically as “Minor Attracted Persons” or part of the NAMBLA crowd, will have equal social standing as overt homosexuals.
“Love is love,” they tell us.
God help us all.
I would like to hear more about their methodology for determining that they are confronting the actual individuals who thought they were going to meet a minor. Seems like a lot of potential for error.
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