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What’s Wrong with Britain’s Police?
American Greatness ^ | 17 Aug, 2024 | Stephen Soukup

Posted on 08/17/2024 4:29:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The bureaucratic protocols dictating police behavior are merely the amoral tools used to enforce the will and the values of government and the ruling class as a whole.

Seventeen years ago, ten-year-old Jordan Lyon drowned in a pond in Wigan, Lancashire (England) while trying to save his eight-year-old sister. According to witness testimony, two police community support officers stood by and watched, as they did not have orders to enter the water and provide assistance.

Nine years ago, 17-year-old Jack Susianta drowned in a 6-foot-deep canal in Clapton, East London. Again, police officers stood by, unable or unwilling to help. Additionally, they stopped onlookers from helping, for fear that they too might find themselves in danger.

Not quite three years ago, Sir David Amess, a conservative member of Parliament for nearly 40 years, was brutally murdered by a homegrown radical Islamist in Essex County, England. Within minutes, Father Jeffrey Woolnough, a Roman Catholic priest, arrived on the scene. Sir David was a well-known devout Catholic, and Fr. Woolnough pleaded to give him last rights. He was refused by the police officers on the scene. The police later issued a statement in which they insisted that it “is of the ‘utmost importance’ that officers preserve the integrity of a crime scene and allow emergency services to tend to people in need.” Given that Sir David was the only person “in need” and that he might have “needed” last rites and perhaps an Apostolic Blessing/Pardon, one wonders whom or what, exactly, the police were trying to protect.

As fate would have it, all three of these incidents had something in common. In each case, the police were motivated (or not motivated, as the case may be) by the same impetuses. Regardless of their superficial motivations (cowardice, overcautiousness, and callous disregard for faith) in all three episodes, police actions were ultimately driven by hyper-bureaucratization and, as such, by the application of values that contravene both common sense and conventional common beliefs.

Today, British police spend their time hunting down grannies who share “unacceptable” memes and hardened criminals who have the unmitigated gall to retweet potential “misinformation” in broad daylight. Meanwhile, sex grooming gangs operate more or less openly throughout the country and potential terrorists brazenly threaten native Britons and their institutions, unmolested by law enforcement. This too is the result of the hype-bureaucratization of government and its consequent descent into value-driven despotic ridiculousness. As the streets around them collapse into chaos, government agencies are obsessed not with fixing problems or redressing grievances, but with following the rules – rules that are intended to convey specific moral messages.

Among the most biting critiques of bureaucracy/management is that offered by the moral philosopher Alasdair MacIntyre, mostly in his 1984 magnum opus After Virtue. Broadly, MacIntyre’s critique is that bureaucracy/management is emotive in practice. Because management is concerned exclusively with process, with means, and not with ends, it is, almost by definition, an amoral scheme. It has no inherent moral foundation. Bureaucracy is purportedly rational, but rationality only applies to means. Therefore, the ends of government management become the purview of the manager/administrator who substitutes his or her personal preferences for genuine moral positions:

Questions of ends are questions of values, and on values reason is silent, conflict between rival values cannot be rationally settled. Instead, one must simply choose – between parties, classes, nations, causes, ideals …

[N]o type of authority can appeal to rational criteria to vindicate itself except that type of bureaucratic authority which appeals precisely to its own effectiveness. And what this appeal reveals is that bureaucratic authority is nothing other than successful power.

MacIntyre further argues that this bureaucratic effectiveness—or managerial competence—is itself a myth, which is to say that this successful application of power is just one more example of society’s attempts to manipulate and dominate people, not to deliver goods or services more effectively.

In short, then, the bureaucratic protocols dictating police behavior—demonstrated in infuriating detail these past few weeks throughout Britain and in the incidents detailed above—are merely the amoral tools used to enforce the will and the values of government and the ruling class as a whole. The British ruling class (like all Western ruling classes) values overcaution and “safteyism.” It supports “diversity” and “multiculturalism.” It disdains traditional religious practice—or, at least, traditional Judeo-Christian religious practice. It detests Western Civilization, “bourgeois” culture, and white privilege. The British ruling class loathes itself and everything associated with it. To be blunt, it hates “Britishness.”

As a result, its bureaucratic agencies—including law enforcement—also favor safteyism and diversity while detesting traditional Britishness.

This is not to say that police behavior has always been animated by those values or even that it must be animated by them going forward. It is merely to say that these are the values that dominate that behavior right now and will be, as long as they are the values of the ruling class.

In the end, each of the incidents noted above and each of the discrete arrests made and sentences issued for spreading misinformation is trivial—to all except those involved—and so it will be forgotten immediately. That’s unfortunate. Collectively, they demonstrate that there is a problem in contemporary Western societies. Those who claim managerial competence are automatically given deference to exercise power to promote their personal preferences as moral dogma. And as we have seen throughout the West over the last several years on a variety of matters—from the economy to COVID to “gender” issues in education and “sustainability” in investing—this involves both the application of often peculiar moral imperatives as well as the failure of those imperatives to deliver the moral stability they promise.

Over the long run, this will produce both moral and practical disaster.


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To: Erik Latranyi
...global Deep State...

We should start using the term "World Government" - becasue that's what it is and intends to become.

21 posted on 08/17/2024 6:29:01 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: MtnClimber

This article does not even touch upon the UTTER corruption of UK law enforcement.

Namely the Jimmy Saville pedophilia scandal.

The Religion of Peace grooming scandal.

The post office worker’s scandal.

Corruption at the highest levels of the criminal justice system.


22 posted on 08/17/2024 6:32:52 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Erik Latranyi

What is the “Deep State”? It is government employees working for their own interests, rather than doing the job that they are officially supposed to do.

How do they work for their own interests? By doing favors for people and organizations who can return favors later, whether by a well paid lobbyist job after retirement, or “financial advice” which can enrich the bureaucrat now.

It is global, because money and financial interests are global. You think the same wealthy people who have an interest in influencing government in the US don’t also have interests overseas too?


23 posted on 08/17/2024 6:33:06 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: MtnClimber

Like N.Y.Cops they’ve been neutered by limp wristed politicians


24 posted on 08/17/2024 6:41:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Kimber .45 Be Kind.)
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To: MtnClimber

They signed up for the job that way. There’s nothing wrong with them, that’s their natural behavior, that of tyrants.

The police see us as the enemy, it’s time we start seeing them the same way.


25 posted on 08/17/2024 6:42:57 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: MtnClimber

You mean the men that were tortured into giving false testimony and confessions?


26 posted on 08/17/2024 6:44:46 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: TalBlack
exactly, very noticeable is the number of female cops at any British event. I really feel it has a detrimental effect on the way male cops would normally act [or react] to situations. I call it the pussification of manliness. Just look at our military today.
27 posted on 08/17/2024 6:45:58 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: MtnClimber
Police are terrified of being labeled "racist" and let muslims criminals go: Recently:
The Chief Constable of the West Midlands... released a video statement addressed to the Muslims in the region, greeting them deferentially with "Salam Alaykum," and reassuring them of the police's support and giving "huge thanks" to their "elders" for their "cooperation."

In Plymouth, according to one report, while leftist Muslims were destroying a church, taking stones from its wall to throw at the protesters, police were not stopping the radicals, but instead beating the protesters.

Northampton police posted on X that they had "received reports of a hate crime regarding a post published on social media" and in response had arrested a 41-year-old woman "on suspicion of inciting racial hatred."

A Muslim brandishing an AK-47 assault rifle on social media, however, while threatening to blow people's heads off, is apparently acceptable. Equally acceptable, evidently, are Muslim radicals vowing on social media that any members of the "English Defense League" who show up to Walthamstow in northeast London will be murdered, and their bodies "disappeared" in the woods.


28 posted on 08/17/2024 6:58:33 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: MtnClimber

A: Britain’s police now serve the UK’s Deep State.


29 posted on 08/17/2024 6:58:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: mewzilla

The public now exists to serve its so-called public servants.


30 posted on 08/17/2024 6:59:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
islam is a totalitarian death cult founded by a child rapist.... who worships satan (aka "allah")
31 posted on 08/17/2024 7:01:09 AM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: MtnClimber

One day when I was stationed in England and I was at work, a British policeman knocked on our door. My wife had him give her his ID through the mail-slot in the door. The policeman thought that was really weird and over cautious.

After reviewing the ID, my wife let him in, and the policeman came in seeking information about a human head (without a body) that they had found nearby.


32 posted on 08/17/2024 7:01:18 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: TalBlack

“One word answer: Feminized.”

SADLY, that’s where it all starts, and it only happened because a bunch of rich Industrialists wanted to expand the workforce (sound familiar) to drive down wages, and hence women were released from the home and into society, and with that, they brought the ‘values’ that the Founding Fathers thought they had kept locked away and out of power.


33 posted on 08/17/2024 7:11:08 AM PDT by BobL
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To: MtnClimber

Look at the history of military invasions and occupations, of city govt. corruption, police corruption, police inertia as it never fixes anything but merely shows up for its shift for decade after decade, generation after generation in an eternal symbiotic/bureaucratic relationship with crime.
Cops are not rebels, they do what they are told and like it that way, behind the badges and the pistols and the clubs are sheep, since they are among us and walk with physical power and sometimes shoot and sometimes club the lower classes we think of them as doers but in reality they are just part of the gray permanent routine of the bureaucracy and will fit in with whatever the system is, British, or German if the Germans conquer Britain, or China if Britain loses a war, and they are pretty much the same wherever you go in that way.


34 posted on 08/17/2024 7:19:15 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: MtnClimber
What’s Wrong with Britain’s Police?

They don't carry guns.

They're wimps.

35 posted on 08/17/2024 7:36:41 AM PDT by ABStrauss (I miss Rlush!)
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To: Wallace T.
Arguably, California, New York, Massachusetts, and Maryland are already at the stage of Britain.

What in Maryland exemplifies your claim? Curious...

36 posted on 08/17/2024 7:58:55 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Propaganda keeps only governments in business, not corporations. —John Nolte)
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To: Bonemaker

“It is “just following orders” syndrome combined with preserve my job, health benefits, and pension.”

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Exactly. They will do whatever their paymasters want/tell them to do, and that is usually what’s good for the bureaucracy and the system it serves.


37 posted on 08/17/2024 8:31:46 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: MtnClimber

Police forces are government forces. They do not serve the people. They serve the government. The government of the UK is fully Sharia compliant and the natives will be ruthlessly oppressed and the “thin blue line” will gleefully crack the skulls of the uppity natives.


38 posted on 08/17/2024 8:36:29 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: MtnClimber

Wrong? All senior officers = totally woke. Troopers who believe in civil rights and Brit culture left. The ones who remained are thugs.

Time for Nov5. It is the only way out.


39 posted on 08/17/2024 8:54:25 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: Biblebelter; MtnClimber

The Administrative State must be dismantled.

- Liz Truss, Tuesday, April 16, 2024


40 posted on 08/17/2024 9:01:11 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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