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To: marcusmaximus
Zelensky attacks Russia with weapons manufactured by - and probably donated by - NATO countries.

Russia is governed by a dictator who rightly fears for his own life and his own standard of living.

Russia has the largest stock pile of nuclear weapons in the world.

What could possibly go wrong?

4 posted on 08/14/2024 4:25:28 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: zeestephen

Even worse is a world where nuclear blackmail becomes the norm.

Pretty much EVERY leader these days is under considerable threat. In Pooty’s case, most of it is internal. For all its faults, NATO knows full well that knocking off Pooty accomplishes nothing and likely would backfire in a big way.


8 posted on 08/14/2024 4:32:00 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: zeestephen

I expect nuclear reactors cracked like eggshells, more than nuclear weapons even being used. Ukraine will glow on its own if everyone isn’t very careful.


12 posted on 08/14/2024 4:40:56 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: zeestephen

Some of these war hawks need to watch this movie. While the total number of warheads might be less the more advanced targeting systems probably make up for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOFsOA9VsBk


20 posted on 08/14/2024 5:06:01 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: zeestephen

Many things can go wrong here and they would impact Russia just as hard. Since Russia has the ability to determine whether to stay in Ukraine or not, they should probably be assessing their strategy so far.


24 posted on 08/14/2024 5:31:54 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: zeestephen

well, firstly - it isn’t “Zelenskyy attacking” - I doubt he has a military mind. It is the Ukrainian military going on the offensive by deviating Muscowy’s attention.

If Putin had given indications to stop, then Ukraine would not need to do this.

But the fear that Ukraine has had since September 2022 is that even if they given Putin some territory now, there is every indication that he will wait a few years for the world’s attention to go elsewhere and then come back for more territory - he did that in Feb 2022 after having de facto control of Crimea AND the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s republic in the Donbas


32 posted on 08/14/2024 6:13:06 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: zeestephen
It's not just NATO countries but NATO is directly giving them arms. BIG mistake!

It's one thing if countries (NATO countries or not) want to send help to Ukraine but it's another for the NATO organization to get involved as directly as they are. I saw missiles being unloaded in Ukraine (video) written in BIG letters across the missile "NATO".

If we didn't get into other nations' business we'd be better off. And if we stopped abandoning promises, plans and agreements with other nations we'd have more credibility in the world. We'd be more trusted.

Remember when after September 11th Qaddafi gave up his weapons of mass destruction? He assisted the the US in the war against terror after 911, we had just rebuilt a new Embassy in Libya and under Hillary Clinton Qaddafi's body ended up being dragged in the streets after we USA participated in bombing Qaddafi's troops on the ground. How can we be trusted. Republicans remembered. Cried about our loss of credibility in the world. Who will trust us to help us next time?

Then there was Biden's Afghanistan how we left our friends and families behind. Kind of reminded me of the last chopper out of Saigon moment.

Why was Ukraine stupid enough to listen to us encourage them to get rid of their nukes with an agreement that if Russia ever attacked we'd have their backs.

USA Leader of the free world... What could possibly go wrong?


42 posted on 08/14/2024 7:15:12 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: zeestephen
What could possibly go wrong?

Russia should withdraw its troops from Ukraine. Then everyone can go about as before.

45 posted on 08/14/2024 7:56:46 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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