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The UK’s Metropolitan Police threaten Elon Musk for online posts inciting “hate”
American Thinker ^ | 9 Aug, 2024 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 08/10/2024 4:21:04 AM PDT by MtnClimber

No one is safe from the Metropolitan Police, including American citizens in America.

George Orwell accurately predicted in 1984 what would happen when technology was combined with leftism. The only mistake he made was that he assumed it would happen forty years sooner than it finally did. I say that because Britain’s Labour government is embarking on a huge “hate” speech crackdown (2024’s version of “misinformation”), and Elon Musk, an American citizen in America, had better watch out. Indeed, according to the police commissioner, all Americans are in his crosshairs.

I support laws making it illegal to use speech to threaten people or incite specific violence. Thus, statements such as “I’m going to kill you” or “Let’s burn down this grocery store” have always been criminalized in America, even under the First Amendment. However, in America (at least for now), statements such as “I wish he were dead,” “He is an evil man,” or even “The people need to fight this madness” are free speech that the government cannot criminalize.

What we haven’t done in America (yet) is to criminalize what one might call “thoughtcrimes.” We’re on the way there, however, because we have “hate crimes.” Hate crime charges enhance criminal penalties if the wrongdoer had anti-minority or anti-LGBTQ+ thoughts when committing the underlying crime. Thus, in America, it’s worse to kill a person because he’s black or gay than it is merely to kill the person.

This thought crime standard doesn’t work in the other direction, of course. There’s no penalty enhancement for killing a person because he’s white or heterosexual. It’s the thoughtcrime of “racism” or “homophobia” that makes the murder not just bad but really bad.

The very idea of hate crimes is unconstitutional, to my way of thinking.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: elonmusk; hh2; leftism; socialmedia; twitter; x
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1 posted on 08/10/2024 4:21:04 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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What should a population do when it’s own government has imported the head choppers and loosed them on the native population?


2 posted on 08/10/2024 4:21:19 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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I would normally say that England needs to be taken down a notch, but really, what worse could anybody to to them that the English haven’t already done to themselves? They’re pitiful.


3 posted on 08/10/2024 4:23:10 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump/Vance 2024 or GFY)
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Police Commissioner: We will throw the full force of the law at people. And whether you're in this country committing crimes on the streets or committing crimes from further afield online, we will come after you.

Reporter: I want to talk to you about that because we have seen some high-profile figures whipping up the hatred you talked about it in there with the officers, in fact, about this [the civil unrest] being added to by online commentary. I mean, I’m even thinking of the likes of Elon Musk getting involved. What are you considering when it comes to dealing with people who are whipping up this kind of behavior from behind a keyboard and maybe in a different country?

Police Commissioner: Being a keyboard warrior does not make you safe from the law. You can be guilty of offenses of, of incitement, of stirring up racial hatred. There are numerous terrorist offenses regarding the sort of publishing of material. All of those offenses are in play if people are provoking hatred and violence on the streets, and we will come after those individuals, just as we will physically confront on the streets, the thugs and the yobs who are taking, who are causing the problems for Community.

4 posted on 08/10/2024 4:25:04 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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5 posted on 08/10/2024 4:30:33 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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just waiting on that torch and pitchfork moment when the people turn on parliament when the people see that as their only option it will happen .... take note Washington


6 posted on 08/10/2024 4:30:40 AM PDT by jneesy (Good lord we have Jimmy Carters dumb cousin in the white house)
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It sounds like suppression of speech under the color of law.

the policeman needs to be sued in the USA for suppression.

Let him argue jurisdiction


7 posted on 08/10/2024 4:42:42 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Orange is the new brown)
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Come and take him you Limeys.


8 posted on 08/10/2024 4:45:15 AM PDT by McGruff (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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Yep. I argued while a law student in the mid 90s that making something more of a crime simply because of the political thoughts of the criminal was both ridiculous and unconstitutional.

It does not matter if the murderer murdered because the victim was Black or because the victim wore purple shoes. Did they commit the act, yes or no? (Actus Reus) Did they have a guilty mind, yes or no? (mens rea). If so, then they are guilty - period, end of story.

9 posted on 08/10/2024 4:56:19 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Hey Mark Rowley....get your MUSLIMS under control. Its obvious many of them are quite hateful and have deliberately targeted White people in Britain. I’m posting from America. Come and get me......until then you will just have to pucker up and kiss my rosy red ass because there is not one GD thing you can do about it. And by the way, when you try, I will simply tell the court you lack in personem jurisdiction and you will be laughed out of court. Your laws do not apply in our country. Suck it.


10 posted on 08/10/2024 4:59:12 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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No one is safe from the Spanish English inquisition!
11 posted on 08/10/2024 5:01:07 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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Hate? What? Like standing on the steps of the SCOTUS saying, “You’ll pay for this”?


12 posted on 08/10/2024 5:03:54 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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Question - is it possible for Musk to cut off his platform, “X”, for Gret Britain, for something like 24 hours?

Just to prove a point?


13 posted on 08/10/2024 5:26:51 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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Come and get me, coppers!


14 posted on 08/10/2024 5:47:46 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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I would normally say that England needs to be taken down a notch, but really, what worse could anybody to to them that the English haven’t already done to themselves? They’re pitiful.

They have to eat English food. I don’t know how you could invent a a worse punishment than that.

15 posted on 08/10/2024 5:49:36 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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Is there a Tip Line where I can report Maxine Waters and the View?


16 posted on 08/10/2024 5:54:31 AM PDT by txroadhawg ("To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors." Ronald Reagan)
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Or Henry VIII I’am. Offer with their heads! Sun never sets on the British Empire bullshit! Kaboom


17 posted on 08/10/2024 5:58:09 AM PDT by magua (It's not racism, it's just that thisBecause it’s being reported that a lot of this started in 2015.)
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When telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

George Orwell, 1984


18 posted on 08/10/2024 6:08:36 AM PDT by just me (Trade your liberty for temporary safety. I will keep mine. My family doesn't fly a white flag.)
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[[and Elon Musk, an American citizen in America, had better watch out. Indeed, according to the police commissioner, all Americans are in his crosshairs.]]

Wow! If that doesn’t sound like threats and hate speech, I dont know what does!


19 posted on 08/10/2024 6:11:47 AM PDT by Bob434
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Suppressing Free Speech is a hate crime. This PM needs to be prosecuted in GITMO.


20 posted on 08/10/2024 6:24:59 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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