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1 posted on 08/09/2024 10:34:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Sick music industry


2 posted on 08/09/2024 10:48:27 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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I had a work colleague I used to carpool with who had an interesting story to tell. She and her friend as teenagers knew "Shorty" Shea, the foreman of the Spahn Ranch. He would let them ride horses there.

Manson family members started asking her if they could borrow her car while she was out on her ride. All things being groovy, she agreed although they didn't fill up with gas as they initially promised. Well, we all know what happened with the Manson family.

My colleague told me they did receive a couple of threatening calls but were not worried because there was really nothing they could tell and they were never asked.

Now to the related point: The borrowers left a cassette tape of Manson songs in the car! I asked if she still had it but she did not.
3 posted on 08/09/2024 11:15:23 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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I was so surprised to see this post. This is what I wrote on my own Facebook page tonight.

“Yesterday I wanted to watch a movie. I chose Once Upon a time in Hollywood. Kind of a fun movie. It brought me back to those days. We had just moved to Phoenix in August of that year. Phoenix was a lot different then. Being so close to California there were a lot of influences here of California and the Phoenicians were begging newcomers to not ‘Californicate’ Phoenix. I wanted to go home to New York but so young and dependent there was no way. The movie made me smile with those songs that do not age for me, those clothes I would still wear. It made me contemplate those days, and all over the news not long after we got here was the shocking Manson murders. Back in that time I only looked upon it as another weird story and for the time was most unusual but I was busy acclimating to the very different place I was cast into. As the years have passed I have seen it like a great many others as the end of those more innocent hippy days. Seeing the movie I felt bad once again for them all but so relatable the girl from the movie, Valley of the dolls, Sharon Tate. Young pregnant and horrifically murdered. I thought of her all day today though I was never very familiar with her. I just wish it had gone like the movie. She partying with the Mamas and the Papas at the Playboy mansion, making a movie with Dean Martin. Promising life. Those more carefree times. So, just now I ran across an item surprisingly showing the door to 10050 Cielo Drive from that day with the word “Pig” on it, as painted in Sharon’s blood by Susan Atkins had been auctioned off last year. Like some sort of gravestone of the event. It mentioned the date of the murders. Just after midnight, August 9. Today. Struck me as strange”.

Kind of comforts me, to see your post. That someone else remembers. Reading all those stories, Ringo. I never have read any Beatle reaction but I knew it would be something like that. He knew them personally. As always the Beatle had heart. Some of the rest of these musicians were clueless and in my opinion immature. The tragedy was real.

I imagine those families, friends, ones who are even still around are thinking of it tonight.

Though I didn’t know a one of them, it still hurts.

And it was long ago tonight, August 9, 1969


4 posted on 08/09/2024 11:35:53 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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There are also stories of Manson attending parties at “Mama” Cass Elliot’s house in L.A.


5 posted on 08/10/2024 4:33:27 AM PDT by circlecity
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Manson was after Terry Melcher that night.

If Melchers girlfriend, Candace Bergen hadn’t broken up with him, which led them to move out and lease the house to Polanski and Tate, it would have been Melcher, Bergen and Mark Lindsay who were slaughtered.


6 posted on 08/10/2024 5:37:04 AM PDT by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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Rock is sinister.

Of course you don't see it when you are young, as disguised as it is.

But being old and having it force-fed in the workplace day in and day out at pretty loud volumes, one raises antibodies to it.

The middle-aged and older people who talk (nay brag) about the concerts they currently attend, and people traveling to see acts: Pathetic.

The only thing good to say about rock is that it actually has melodies and harmonies, and that it generally progresses to a mercifully quick end to each song.

Unlike millenial and later wimp-rock which drones on monotonously for hours, preaching surrender and cuckism in its feculent lyrics.

People today whine about the 100,000 per annum deaths from fentanyl and the culture of pierced and tattooed druggies that fills our sidewalks. Tattooed grandmothers and pretty much everyone with skin being tattooed.

Is it that hard to see the connection?

So the link between a monster like Manson and various rock luminaries is not surprising.

And the pantheon of dead rockers is full-up.

Lots of pathology.

7 posted on 08/10/2024 5:43:08 AM PDT by caddie
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There has been a long-term concerted effort to control what is publicly known about Manson.


8 posted on 08/10/2024 5:56:54 AM PDT by fso301
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I remember reading, after the Beatles released their first song in the US (I want to hold your hand), that their music was a bad BAD influence for America.
I was one of the few not influenced by them. All the rest of the students in High School fell for them like a rock.


10 posted on 08/10/2024 7:24:58 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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Look at your fame girl (cover)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e7_5XRHP-Y


11 posted on 08/10/2024 7:27:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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home is where you’re happy cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI5HJGxP7ck


12 posted on 08/10/2024 7:30:39 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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People Say Im No Good (Cover)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKcL9qltF58


13 posted on 08/10/2024 7:35:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Charles Manson And The Beach Boys - Never Learn Not To Love (Cease To Exist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ERIssUYV8g


16 posted on 08/10/2024 7:43:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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I read the letter Charles Manson (CM) wrote to Marilyn Manson (MM). It sound to me like what would be expected from a narcissist like CM. It's sounds that he was pissed off and telling MM that he's less than him (CM) and just a copycat of the treat original (CM). "you seen me from under with it all standing on me,".

CM seems like a person who had little to no affirmation as a child. This tends to stop the natural transition from seeing yourself as the center of the world to recognizing that you are a part of a bigger picture.

17 posted on 08/10/2024 8:18:42 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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Most of these aren’t really connections. Like the tying of Ozzy and Sabbath they do is like saying anti-war songs are “connected” to Viet Nam.


20 posted on 08/12/2024 12:44:28 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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