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Can Parents Prevent Their Sons From Sliding to the Right? (Karen alert)
The Cut ^ | February 17, 2024 | Kathryn Jezer-Morton

Posted on 08/09/2024 4:31:11 AM PDT by DoodleBob

… I’ve never been much for the “boy-mom” thing. Beyond the obvious gender-politics ick, it’s part of what I think of as bumper-sticker culture: the labeling and characterizing of every surface of our lives, for, I guess, fun. Very childish behavior. Making my kids’ putative gender identities a badge that I wear alongside my own? Why is this cute? Anyway, I’ve tried to raise my sons in a spirit of loving gender agnosticism if not neutrality, while of course honoring their passion for trucks, the NFL, and bag-tagging each other at every opportunity.

We had a good gentle run, but now my elder son is becoming conversant in such concepts as “sigmas” and “looksmaxxing,” and whatever best intentions my husband Gray and I were working with need to be recalibrated for a new set of much more challenging identity-defining conditions. So it was with great interest that I recently read about a new study indicating that across the Global North, young men and young women are aligning themselves with sharply divergent politics. Women are leaning more progressive, and men more conservative. Not just a little divergence — a big one.

This did not come as a huge surprise to me or Gray. He teaches humanities at a local college, where I have taught too, and we’ve often talked about how tricky it can be to keep hetero boys involved in classroom debates. Many of these young men seem very anxious about saying the wrong thing, and will often refuse to participate, sometimes projecting a provocative kind of defensiveness that is its own argument. As much as I think cancel culture is a fake problem in media, it feels very real to young men when they’re sitting in a classroom. Whatever they are feeling, it feels real as hell. Insisting that they’re imagining their enemies doesn’t help.

After the study came out, there was a lot of speculation as to what might be causing this ideological schism. Is it capitalism? Men’s-rights influencers? Is it the dreaded woke mind virus?

There’s no mystery about why young women are becoming more progressive, but it’s harder to understand the factors behind the increasingly conservative young men. My friend Greg sent me a fascinating piece of analysis by Dr. Robin James, who argues that central to the move toward conservatism among young men is a sense that they’re an aggrieved party — that they are being robbed of entitlements. James explains this in financial terms: In today’s social world, which borrows much of its logic from the free-market economy, success isn’t figured in terms of just doing steady business year after year. It means going viral, experiencing a crazy run of success and earning a windfall. This is true in the realms of art (think superstars who started out making TikToks in their bedrooms), finance (crypto), and consumer culture (Stanley cups).

Applied to people, it maps to feminism and its mirror, misogyny. Feminism feels unfair to these young men because it’s based on the premise that women started from a position of inferiority (many young men find this hard to believe, because they were literally born yesterday) and now get to enjoy the glory of having beaten the odds. For young men to experience the same narrative of success, they feel they need to start from a position of disempowerment. Blaming women for their troubles is an easy route to that position — it’s way easier to explain and understand than, say, the neoliberal dismantling of the public sphere, and the alienating effect that can have on our everyday life.

James writes, “Femininity is figured as resilience, or the ability to flip sexist damage into spectacular success. Popular misogyny is the masculine complement to that: It takes perceived loss of status as an injury and then makes a spectacle out of overcoming that damage through things like podcasts, social media, and rap songs.”

Overcoming obstacles is the most hallowed narrative in our culture — it’s a place where capitalism’s growth imperative dovetails with the progressive appetite for stories about emancipation. So for young men, and straight white men in particular, to feel like valid participants in the storytelling of selfhood, they feel the need to start from a place of grievance, because otherwise there’s no way to bounce back and beat the odds. James cites the gender-studies scholar Michelle Murphy, who has argued that girls’ venerated place in our culture right now is the quintessential example of this mobilization of human capital: “Her rates of return are so high precisely because her value begins so low.” (This argument is the entire basis of the Barbie movie’s success.)

The appeal of a grievance-based identity makes it hard to convince straight white boys that they in fact have plenty going for them, and that they have no reason to feel aggrieved. Doing this convincing, whether it’s in the classroom or at the dinner table, requires a light touch. It’s very easy, and very satisfying, to be doctrinaire — social media encourages and rewards it. I think many of us adults are so entrenched in social-media political discourse that it feels dangerously transgressive to allow a teen to articulate beliefs we disagree with at our dinner tables. When you spend your days reading infographics reminding you that being silent means being on the side of the oppressor, having a flesh-and-blood oppressor-in-training eating your spaghetti and meatballs can feel like a waking nightmare. But coming down too hard risks playing right into the paranoid hands of masculinist discourses of male disempowerment.

My own feeling is that we progressive parents of white sons could ease up. It’s possible to model and enforce ideological ground rules for your family while also allowing young people to bring up their questions and TikTok-based information without fear of a parental freeze-out. For those of us (like me) very firm in our political beliefs, it feels good to stake your position and defend it well. But as adults, we need to figure out a way to help our young people work through confusion without feeling shunned by their own families. This can mean letting reactionary and unformed pseudo-ideologies breathe the same airspace as us while we invite patient conversation. It might feel dangerous to let a teenager argue that sexism works both ways, but it’s far more consequential to make him feel like that position is forbidden. No one should get canceled at the dinner table.

Social media has poached our brains in an incredibly lame way. I suspect that progressive-leaning white parents’ own anxiety about our reputations plays a part in our conversations with our teenage sons, and they can feel it. Teenagers are more attuned to vanity and artifice than any other species, so try to hide your own at your peril. When my voice raises as I start lecturing a teen about why he needs to recognize the importance of the history of Indigenous people rather than simply appropriate all the slang he’s learned from Reservation Dogs? He clocks that, and I wonder what it makes him think. I hope he files it away as something that’s probably true, rather than stacking it alongside a growing pile of reasons why white kids can’t seem to get anything right.

The lesson we owe our teenagers is that our identities are not brands — that as humans, we are capable of much more than that. Ascribing to an identity of grievance is an extremely limiting way to define yourself. It’s like taking on “Nike” or “Supreme” as a personality — kiddie s***. We owe our young people the dignity of a nuanced, three-dimensional set of beliefs, which means we have to let them figure it out in safety. Maybe that means letting them make fun of us a little bit. Maybe it means poking fun at ourselves. Having principles should feel good, not stressful. That’s something we can model for our kids.

Anatomical graffiti is a proud tradition that I am happy to have in my home. But raising teenage boys is likely going to require way more tolerance than this, and I hope I’m ready. My husband and I have tried to raise our sons with softness, and we’ve done well so far. But as they leave my iron dome of maternal influence, my softness has to extend to the parts of themselves that I wouldn’t choose for them. It’s hard work, respectfully debating a tragically underinformed teen about things that we deeply care about. But who said parenting was easy?


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To: DoodleBob

I heard a story once about mom not allowing her sons to play with boy toys. They got ahold of the barbies, broke one of their legs off and had toy guns.


41 posted on 08/09/2024 6:18:56 AM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
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To: Repeat Offender; DesertRhino; SamAdams76

Now now you MAGA people…get with the times.

“Spinster” is the verbal embodiment of patriarchy. Toxic masculinity in seven letters.

In the re-education gulag, you’ll learn it is NOW called “Otherhood.”

I’m not kidding.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4256516/posts

SMH


42 posted on 08/09/2024 6:20:46 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Girl power...Is there any other empowerment that ends up being abused as much as “girl power”? There’s the right kind and then there’s the wrong kind.


43 posted on 08/09/2024 6:22:12 AM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: DoodleBob

The new toxic masculinity involves testosterone injections for confused biological females.


44 posted on 08/09/2024 6:24:52 AM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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To: Indy Pendance

That’s gold. I literally laughed out loud.

https://www.todaysparent.com/kids/preschool/the-debate-do-you-let-your-kids-play-with-toy-guns/

I suppose in a perfect world, a blissful state of pure parenting theory, I would not want my son to play with toy guns. I would prefer for him and his friends to pretend to organize conferences for world peace instead of destroying massive, unreal armies of faceless enemies with imaginary artillery. But parenthood is the phase of life when you realize just how little your preferences matter. Little boys with guns are yet another moment when beleaguered resignation is by far the best course.

You may not want to buy your son a gun. You may forbid toy guns from your house. But if you have a boy, and you buy a banana at the grocery store, he will find a way to turn it into a gun. I have seen boys at my son’s daycare fold over Barbie dolls to turn them into pistols. Boys will use a leaf pile to mimic the explosions of grenades. They will turn gift-wrap tubes into bazookas. At university, I was told that these actions were the result of “cultural expectations” imposed through “social norms.” All I can say is my son sure didn’t get it from me. I don’t know a single person who owns a gun. I live in a downtown Toronto neighbourhood, where the residents’ values fully live up to any airy-fairy stereotypes you might care to impose; the kid ain’t exactly growing up in West Texas. And yet, for a mercifully brief phase around age three, whatever happened to be in my son’s hands became a gun.


45 posted on 08/09/2024 6:25:03 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

Or all young men could teach Humaties at a local college. Yack!


46 posted on 08/09/2024 6:27:47 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: DeplorablePaul

Shes a pseudo-intellectual who thinks she sounds hip and cool. In reality, she just sounds nuts.


47 posted on 08/09/2024 6:29:24 AM PDT by vivenne
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To: DoodleBob

Thanks for the article. I’ve heard of bananas too.

I have 13 grandkids, between 8-18. Over the years we’ve stockpiled nerf guns and lots of ammo. The kids LOVE them. Even the girls. They’ll spend weekends at grandma and grandpa’s playing all sorts of gun games. I’m surprised they are still being sold. Anyway, they are a huge hit.

Cardboard boxes, tubes and duct tape make great shields and swords.


48 posted on 08/09/2024 6:37:02 AM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
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To: DoodleBob

Can parents prevent their sons from sliding to the right?

Mothers just expect their sons to be liberal?

Mothers are offended if their sons turn out to be more conservative than they are?


49 posted on 08/09/2024 6:38:39 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: DoodleBob

“Femininity is figured as resilience, or the ability to flip sexist damage into spectacular success.”

If you’ve been raised on girlpower and girls rule the world and all girls are princesses, you’re not damaged because your great-grandmother couldn’t have or didn’t have to have a career.

“Dr. Robin James, who argues that central to the move toward conservatism among young men is a sense that they’re an aggrieved party — that they are being robbed of entitlements.”

“Entitlements” are always somebody else’s. People don’t see their own entitlements. Not seriously anyway — they may pretend to, but they don’t let it threaten their real privileges.


50 posted on 08/09/2024 6:40:41 AM PDT by x
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To: DoodleBob

I grew up in a lefty community—but my parents sent me to a summer camp where they taught shooting rifles, archery etc.

I began to suspect it was reverse psychology.

When a little kid like I was feels the recoil from a long rifle there is nothing “fun” about it.

Then I got to listen to the counselor tell me what a lousy shot I was.

Lol.


51 posted on 08/09/2024 6:46:51 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Buttons12

And the husband, “Gray”, a humanities professor. Oh boy.


52 posted on 08/09/2024 6:59:53 AM PDT by oldskoolwargamer2
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To: DoodleBob

Why is it only bad in her world for White men to feel aggrieved? I’m guessing she supports every other grievance groups right to feel like a victim.


53 posted on 08/09/2024 7:36:33 AM PDT by redangus ( )
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To: DeplorablePaul
“Anatomical graffiti is a proud tradition that I am happy to have in my home”
What does this even mean?


54 posted on 08/09/2024 7:42:11 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: DoodleBob

“Anyway, I’ve tried to raise my sons in a spirit of loving gender agnosticism if not neutrality, while of course honoring their passion for trucks, the NFL, and bag-tagging each other at every opportunity.”

A perfect example of stupidity in one sentence. She thinks she is so enlightened while advancing stereotypes in the same breath. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

And, what the heck is “bag-tagging each other”? She’s a failure as a mother and I feel sorry for her kids, but it looks like the children are thankfully overcoming their upbringing by rejecting their mother’s radical leftism.


55 posted on 08/09/2024 8:31:37 AM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: outofsalt

“Anatomical graffiti”

Tatoos, nose rings, etc?


56 posted on 08/09/2024 8:31:38 AM PDT by goodnesswins (DEI....Divide, Enslave, Indoctrinate.....OR ......Didn't Earn It)
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To: Buttons12

I won’t wade through this avalanche of gobbledygook but it had no point whatsoever. I’m not sure any of this nonsense was even English.


57 posted on 08/09/2024 9:08:47 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: DoodleBob
If I don't post the whole thing/prompting clicking thru to the article, I'm accused of being a blogpimp.

Thanks Bob, you posted it and I read the whole thing.

WOW, I can't believe that I did.

The next time, I'll give it to Mikey.

So much soul searching, hand wringing and mental masturbation...I need a shower {and I had one this morning}.

58 posted on 08/09/2024 9:47:23 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: darkangel82; Buttons12
I’m not sure any of this nonsense was even English.

Well, she IS French-Canadian….

59 posted on 08/09/2024 9:52:49 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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