Another problem is using the word “secession.” That immediately brings to mind the Civil War and the acceped principle that secession is not allowed. I don’t think success lies in that direction.
I’d recommend to anyone who wants to have an actual discussion, try talking about “Partition,” as in the 1940s partition of India and Pakistan. I’m not saying I favor partition, either. But you may get a much bigger audience by shifting to partition as agreed to by both partiws, than sticking with secession by an unhappy party
““Partition,” as in the 1940s partition of India and Pakistan.”
For those who don’t recall that was a total bloodbath.
Some of the Eastern Europe breakups after the fall of the Soviet Union are probably a more pleasant example—even though of course Yugoslavia became a hot mess.
Our situation is much worse—we are dealing with power mad leftists who want to hurt us and cause us pain—wherever we are.
The notion that good faith negotiation is possible with such people is beyond belief.
> I’d recommend to anyone who wants to have an actual discussion, try talking about “Partition,” … <
You’re right. Good thinking.
Side note: The partition of India and Pakistan devolved into a bloody mess. On the other hand, the partition of the old USSR was rather peaceful. So it will be interesting (for the lack of a better word) to see which direction the US will ultimately take.
And I suppose there will be a partition, even if it’s a 100 years from now. That always seems to be the end game for “diverse” societies.
> I’d recommend to anyone who wants to have an actual discussion, try talking about “Partition,” as in the 1940s partition of India and Pakistan. I’m not saying I favor partition, either. But you may get a much bigger audience by shifting to partition as agreed to by both partiws, than sticking with secession by an unhappy party
might be a good idea.
as for india-pakistan bloodbath consideration, in practice no one in the usa pays attention to foreign affairs anyways (at least not until there is a sinking of the maine, zimmerman telegram, pearl harbor, or equivalent).