Posted on 08/02/2024 10:21:36 AM PDT by Brookhaven
I find it ironic that completely fulfilling your job description has been tagged as "quitting". It's doing your job.
In this era of downsizing and instant layoffs, it's easy to understand how people can become disenchanted with the idea of putting in the extra effort to move up the corporate ladder, only to have the ladder pulled out from under them.
Intel just laid off 15,000 employees. How much did putting in extra effort and long hours help them? Not at all.
I've been in the workforce 50 years. And times have changed.
The most efficient way to move up in the world is to change jobs. Aquire new skills & experience, then leverage that into a new, higher paying, job.
In the last couple of decades, companies (by and large) have stopped internal development. They are just as likely to hire someone off the street. Part of the reason is companies now recognize they often need new blood to shake up the system. So, they often ignore the internal candidates.
I'm sure my take won't be the popular one here, but the days of busting your tail, spending 30 years at a single company, and moving up the ladder are long gone.
Like I said, Intel just laid off 15,000 employees.
Tiktokers invent “screwing off”
My employer is expecting us to do a lot of extra training to “upskill” on dubious things like AI, but not use work time.
It’s a way of getting a lot more “productivity” out of people without any extra pay.
If you take a test, they only pay for a passing score, too.
This may work (no pun intended) at large companies but I suspect it will not work in a small company.
In a large company an employee is just one cog in a big machine and if that cog doesn’t work there is another that will take up the slack.
However in a small company every employee has to do their job or eventually the business will go under (but before that happens there will be some firing and hiring going on).
I’m just learning about this new movement, but it appears to be a method of indirect communication used mostly by women.
The employee has more to lose than the employer, by using this method.
I couldn’t count how many people I’ve known over the decades that simply do their job, nothing else, and go home every day. They’ve got zero interest in working harder or making themselves stand out. This is nothing new.
That being said, I have seen people that put in extra effort be rewarded with extra pay and bonuses. Myself included. It’s led me to get promotions and new, better jobs.
It’s a problem of motivation and satisfaction. The people the stop working immediately when there are breaks or end of the day; just don’t care.
I would look at the job description for the position directly above mine on the company's organization chart. Within 12-18 months of starting in my current position, I would aim to develop the skills I needed to do 50% of that job.
For years, I was promoted faster than anyone else in the company.
sounds typically spiteful, manipulative and post-millenial.
That world doesn’t exist anymore.
That's not true.......people who do that know how important it is to ‘balance’ the day and so do the companies. I've always worked hard ‘and smart’.....and I braked hard and smart as well. Paid of handsomely in my life.
........”The most efficient way to move up in the world is to change jobs. Aquire new skills & experience, then leverage that into a new, higher paying, job.”......
Yes! Which is what I did and it worked well for me. “Leveraging” is key and knowing how to do that.
There are several forces at work to create an atmosphere where “quietly quitting” is a thing. Meritocracy is dead in many companies. Working harder, accomplishing more than your peers, being smarter, faster, better, are no longer key metrics in the advancement/pay calculus. Severance has become standard for many, if not most corporations. In many cases people are OK with taking a nice severance and moving on, which might be the only way they can advance.
After years of working, I found employers no longer have any allegiance with their employees. You’ll be dumped in a second regardless of how hard you work or what you done for the company.
Working in government is a whole different world than private sector. Those in the private sector can be fired for any reason they can come up with. Any reason whatsoever....People in government are amused by that world.
Many managers look at staff as one big blob and become irate when parts of the blob won't work harder to cover for slackers.
I worked for a small, growing company that was always looking for talented people to fill senior positions. Those companies still exist today.
I can see both sides of this. I fully expect most will describe the workers here as lazy but so long as they are doing what they’re paid to do and doing a decent job of it then I’d say employers who expect them to take on extra work are being unreasonable. Now if they’re not doing solid work during work hours, that’s a different matter.
If you want to do the same job your entire time at the company, that's fine. But if you have a menial job, let's say flipping burgers, and wish to rise to be manager of the restaurant, just doing your job to the bare minimum isn't going to get you there. Yet here we are, with people in their 30's, 40's and beyond asking "would you like fries with that?" and expecting to be making "head of household" pay.
In the last couple of decades, companies (by and large) have stopped internal development. They are just as likely to hire someone off the street. Part of the reason is companies now recognize they often need new blood to shake up the system. So, they often ignore the internal candidates.
Corporations have always used "churn" to cut dead weight and bring in "new blood" as you wrote. Cutting the bottom 5%-10% (by performance) of your employees has been a common process for many decades. NOT doing so drags down the rest of the workforce. The problem is that without applying meritocracy to that process, you are no longer improving your workforce or productivity, you are just making it more "diverse, equal and inclusive".
When I am working my employer gets my attention and work. When they tell me to work at home without pay, ain’t happening. I was told I need to work 10 hrs. of community service a month and I asked HR if I was going to be paid and they said no it’s community service. I said no pay, no work, I choose where my charity goes, when and how. They let it lay.
I’m a gen X and I believe in doing a good job when on the clock, they get maximum effort, but I have found that employer loyalty goes one way and I’m not playing that game. My rule for the last 30 yrs is when I walk out the door closing time I leave my work at my office.
That being said the Z attitude of barely working and expecting a raise is out right stupid. If you are doing that in my office I will get rid of you the first chance I get. If you are busting your butt and going above and beyond you get noticed, you get a raise if I can make it happen, if I can’t I work with you when you need that extra hour off early for your kids Christmas play, little things.
It is well known in HR circles that “cutting the bottom 10%” results in the top 10% leaving too.
The reason why is that they are very mobile (able to find another job) and they really want to feel like they are winning.
When companies start in with the usual rhetoric about difficult choices and tough times, the message they send to their best employees is “your corporate leadership is incompetent.”
Plus I have never actually seen a real “bottom 10%” layoff. The reality is always that it is really an “over 50” layoff with a few sacrificial young people thrown in for cover.
And in every case I have ever experienced, awesome employees are laid off while painfully incompetent people are kept, making the whole thing a rather obvious lie.
On the other hand, healthy companies empower their front line managers to fire bad employees because those managers know who is bad and who isn’t.
From the top mass layoffs never have anything to do with anyone’s performance other than the incompetent corporate leadership themselves.
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