Posted on 07/11/2024 5:54:47 AM PDT by Red Badger
Ping!....................
As much as I would like to be rid of diabetes, I'd like to try dietary changes and probiotics first.
Seems to me they could package a whole set of microbes in a capsule for people to take for a month until their gut flora becomes normalized..................
Gut biomes FOLLOW what we eat. They are like a mirror reflecting our diet. Not a cause but a result.
That’s what Probiotics are.
Your biggest risk factor... Your genes. Diabetes is largely an inherited disease.
I myself am not obese, never have been, wasn’t much of sugar eater, never used butter or margarine... My highest weight was 150, and I’m 5’-5”. When I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes I was 60 and weighed about 130... Now I’m at about 120 to 125. My father had type 2 and wasn’t fat, my brother had type 1 and wasn’t diagnosed until he was 26... 2 sisters and neither have diabetes... Mother didn’t have it either. My DNA test said that I’m prone to it... Apparently, they nailed it.
I’ve done the entire family history and there are at least a couple of instances of children’s deaths being attributed to starvation, or wasting disease in the late 19th and early 20th century. There wasn’t any starvation going on, so they likely died from type 1 diabetes.
So if you have family that has diabetes then be prepared... If you don’t, you’re likely off the hook.
It’s both, actually.
You get more of what you feed, yes.
But bacteria also send cravings for food they want.
It’s a vicious cycle. One that must be interrupted both by diet and good probiotics.
Utter idiocy. Research $$ better spent elsewhere.
They’ve learned NOTHING about the gut from this work and deviated from T2 as well.
I’ve become an avid consumer of yogurt products for this reason, mostly Kefir. I use it to make chia pudding.
I’d like to try dietary changes and probiotics first.
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Don’t get me wrong. I am a cynical basterd so my first reaction is to scoff at everything. I actually like that medical research is now studying gut flora and it’s effects on health. This stuff has been talked about for many decades by people outside the mainstream medical but dismissed by them. Dont’ forget the prime motivation for medical research, and that is for it to lead to prescriptions or procedures (profits).
However, I skimmed this article and I am still left thinking that they could easily be ascribing causality where it’s not warranted. If one changes their diet, it will change their gut biome in response. The change in gut biome may not be the cause of the incidence or intensity of type 2 diabetes, both biome and t2d could be the effect of change in diet. In other words, if you consume less sugar over a long enough time, the lack of insulin spike as well as the lack of sugar in the digestive tract lead to the two results that they casting as causal of each other.
Special bacteria in a capsule that is commonly used by Doctors to replace good bacteria that strong Antibiotic kill off. The antibiotics will kill both good and bad bacteria in your stomach and intestines. After taking the antibiotic, taking a Probiotic speeds the replacement of good bacteria.
Our local drug store keeps the Probioteic’s in the drugstore’s refrigerator.
I keep them in my refrigerator, my wife is a diabetic. My first wife was a diabetic. (she died in 2018)
Well...I think I changed my “gut biome” in 24 hours. After 18 months of daily diarrhea, was tired of no solutions. So hub&I did research...and found suggestions...within 24 hours of no veggies, no fruit, few carbs...diarrhea stopped. So, I am doing Carnivore basically to reset my gut biome for 4 months.
The study doesn’t point to anything that can be potentially done to help. They through out a few remote ideas, but they don’t know what’s going on with why this bacteria is higher or what is happening with the bacteriophage.
I just did some checking and it looks like Lactobacillus go down when Prevotella copri go up in population. Prevotella copri seem to like heme iron, which we get from mostly red meat, in quantity.
The study doesn’t point to much, but it is interesting.
Overlooked confounders: The study controlled for some factors like geography and ethnicity, but did not address other potentially influential variables like diet, lifestyle, medication use, or underlying health conditions.
That’s the sort of thing to identify and try.
I would suggest getting a fecal bacterial test done, which will tell you the general makeup of your gut bacteria and some other insights. You can order it yourself from Direct Labs. You send in the sample via FedEx.
Do note you could permanently lose some good bacteria, with an exclusive approach, like this.
I KNEW IT!!!
I’m fat because of viruses, not the 7000 calories a day.
I think maybe 7000 calories a day effected gut biome....but hey, that wont get you more research grant money.
Thx...will do.
What seems to be best is to be aware of the general balance these bacterial families provide. Some good bacteria can become bad, and vice-versa, depending on our diet and the other remaining bacteria still in our gut.
You can generally help more beneficial bacteria to grow, minimizing, but not eliminating, some bad ones, by having more soluble fiber. For some bacteria, milk products are helpful. For others, they can survive on multiple inputs, like fiber and milk and meat, for instance. There are many hundreds of different bacteria families in out gut, so we really don't know what could be most optimal.
For you, you found your body is not having problems with a meat-only diet. Maybe a yeast was the problem, as they would tend to require carbs, or a byproduct of protein breakdown that was a carb, prior to intestinal absorption. Greatly reducing types of food sources can help identify what might be encouraging the bad, but going exclusive for long may permanently change other things you didn't want changed.
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