Ukraine ping
rn: [If the US every gives Putin almost 200 Billion tax-payer dollars in ‘foreign aid’ to fight NATO’s proxy war, then I will care what Putin does with the money.
The US just pledged another 2 billion American Tax Dollars to the little grifter in the Ukraine.]
In WW2, the US funded a Russia committed to the overthrow of all governments not already subservient to Russia, through the auspices of Comintern. This Russia colluded with Germany to start WW2. It fought Germany only after German armies invaded Russia.
Note that Russia was fighting on its own soil for 3 out of the war’s 4 years despite annual US aid to Russia amounting to ~6% of the US’s 1941 GDP. At the beginning of the war, Russia lost to the Germans territory amounting to ~2x the area of all of Ukraine. If Ukraine had lost to Russia what Russia lost to the Germans, it would already have been overrun. What’s impressive is how little US aid was required for Ukraine to hold the Russians back - 0.2% of US GDP, or 1/30 of WW2 American aid to Russia.
While the claim is dubious, if Zelensky is in fact getting a Bugatti, we should buy him a new model every year. He’s been working wonders on a shoestring budget. That Ukraine is warding off Russia with the same annual budget used to fight a bunch of part-time guerrillas in Afghanistan is near miraculous.
A world that expected a Russian victory in 3 days has instead been given yet another demonstration of Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness. These characteristics were always latent, but this is the first time disinterested foreign assistance has been made available in more than nominal quantities. While 1/30 WW2 US aid to Russia, Ukrainians are certainly doing much better with the limited help provided than anyone thought possible.
We’re funding Ukraine to prevent Russia, a two-continent empire with a long history of annexing its neighbors until stopped by unacceptable losses, from expanding its territory. We wouldn’t stand by if our allies attempted to annex new lands. We’re certainly not indifferent to Russia’s fresh efforts at empire-building.
ransomnote: When those agitating for the Ukraine are not insisting Putin is stupid, dying and about to be overthrown by his people, we hear that he has aspirations of world dominion and limitless power. That 'history of annexing new lands' applies to Soviet history - agitators continue to portray Russia as Soviet. Putin responded to the CIA overthrow of Ukraine in 2013/2014 by annexing a buffer zone. This is defensive on his part.
In WW2, the US funded a Russia committed to the overthrow of all governments not already subservient to Russia, through the auspices of Comintern. This Russia colluded with Germany to start WW2. It fought Germany only after German armies invaded Russia.
ransomnote: You refer to 'Russia' during WWII but the it was Soviet Union during the years 1922 to 1991. Much of Ukrainian agitation relies upon calling the Soviet Union 'Russia' in order to harvest American rejection of Communism and Soviet apsirations and falsely apply it to Putin.
Note that Russia was fighting on its own soil for 3 out of the war’s 4 years despite annual US aid to Russia amounting to ~6% of the US’s 1941 GDP. At the beginning of the war, Russia lost to the Germans territory amounting to ~2x the area of all of Ukraine. If Ukraine had lost to Russia what Russia lost to the Germans, it would already have been overrun. What’s impressive is how little US aid was required for Ukraine to hold the Russians back - 0.2% of US GDP, or 1/30 of WW2 American aid to Russia.
ransomnote: WWII just doesn't apply here. Here's a description on the demise of the Soviet Union: "One of the most powerful empires in world history came to a surprisingly peaceful end when the Soviet Union dissolved into 15 independent states." Without referencing 'Soviet Union' history - your whole argument about the Ukraine 'holding back RUssia' comes down to the CIA's overthrow of the Ukraine in 2014 - President Trump has spoken of this. If the CIA/NATO were not using Ukraine as its proxy in a war to remove Putin - there would be no war, no annexation.
While the claim is dubious, if Zelensky is in fact getting a Bugatti, we should buy him ensky is a puppet benifiting from vast funding while his people are suffering. 'Working wonders on a shoestring budget' is a joke - the Ukraine is losing badly and the people are the ones to fight, die, or bury their loved ones and sit in the dark without resources.
A world that expected a Russian victory in 3 days has instead been given yet another demonstration of Ukrainian courage and resourcefulness. These characteristics were always latent, but this is the first time disinterested foreign assistance has been made available in more than nominal quantities. While 1/30 WW2 US aid to Russia, Ukrainians are certainly doing much better with the limited help provided than anyone thought possible.
ransomnote: Some people underestimated how far NATO was going to go in orchestrating this war. Top command levels are NATO, with levels of military which bleed being Ukrainian. 'The world' did not anticiapte that.
You can't convince anyone that forcibly conscripting boys 15 to disabled men of 70 years of age is cause for pride!
You said: "but this is the first time disinterested foreign assistance has been made available in more than nominal quantities"!!!!!
The Ukraine has been a glove pulled over NATO's fist to punch and claw at Russia. The lives of the citizens of Ukraine are being thrown into the wood chipper to fuel NATO's war! There is NOTHING 'disinterested' about NATO/BIDEN funding the war to protect their Deep State crime hub there!
Again the US did not give aid to 'Russia' during WWII, if what you say is true, but instead the US would have had to give it to the Soviet Union.
The Ukraine is bleeding to death, with the 'help' of Amercan tax dollars.
Thanks Zhang Fei.
To add on to Zhang Fei.
Muscowy already HAD Crimea and much of the Donbas captured in their 2014 invasion and no one was doing much of anything to help Ukraine. Everyone hoped that the Kremlin would be satisfied.
But 2022 February changed that - Putin will not be sated. he will continue with salami tactics on its neighbors.
The world already wrote off Ukraine in Feb 2022 and it was only in March 2022 when the Ukrainians won the battles of hostomel and Kyiv that the world said “hey, maybe they can hold the Muscowites at bay” and help slowly trickled in, starting in June and only escalating by 2023 when it was clear that Putin’s pride would not consider a draw