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To: adorno
But,the desire by Putin and the Kremlin predates Obama and Biden.

It was Putin or the Russians that fomented an illegal coup in 2014 that setoff a civil war. That was us that did that. A President was illegally driven out of office, one those in Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea voted for. Those regions had no obligation to be part of an illegally-formed Ukrainian nationalist government that sought to persecute and kill them.

We were the ones that promised in the early 1990s, no eastward expansion of NATO. We went on to expand to the Russian border and tease NATO membership for Ukraine, despite the fact the Ukraine had promised to remain a neutral country.

We trained, funded and armed a 600,000 man Ukrainian army. If Russia or China had done that in Mexico after installing a puppet government, we'd invade.

Trump was absolutely correct when he said this:

Washington: Former President Donald Trump said in an interview with the All-In podcast that the possibility of NATO expanding to Russia’s border has always been understood to be off the table and such rhetoric now is provocative.

“They don’t want to have it, it’s always been understood, and that’s even before Putin,” Trump said in the podcast that aired on Thursday. “It’s always been understood that was a no-no… that was very provocative, and now it’s even more provocative.”

Trump said that it’s understandable that Russia would be bothered by NATO troops on its border, adding that NATO’s eastward expansion is a key reason for the conflict and that President Biden’s rhetoric about envisioning Ukraine eventually joining NATO is even more provocative.

“Biden was saying all of the wrong things and one of the wrong things he was saying: ‘Ukraine will go into NATO,’…Biden, he was saying the opposite of what in my opinion you had to say…and he’s still saying it,” Trump said.

70 posted on 06/25/2024 8:46:14 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vAbEr9bBvM

Russia’s MiG-31 Foxhound Destroyed The U.S. GLOBAL HAWK and MQ-4C TRITON Drones Over The BLACK SEA


72 posted on 06/25/2024 9:57:59 PM PDT by Jumper
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