[adorno]

The Maiden coup occurred while Obama was in office with his administration's blessing. The Ukrainians were about to launch an offensive against the people of Donetsk and Lugansk was given a go-ahead when Biden took office.

Tha't a lot of BS!

And, yeah, a lot of what happened and is happening with Ukraine is the fault of the Obama and Biden administrations. Both should be impeached or indicted, and put in prison for the rest of their days.

But,the desire by Putin and the Kremlin predates Obama and Biden. Putin has always wanted to reconstitute the Soviet Union, and Obama and Putin allowed or helped Putin to get started on his mission. Even under Trump, Putin was looking for a way to go after the former states of he Soviet Union. Everyone of the former states of the Soviet Union are threatened, and a bunch of them felt so threatened that they decided to join NATO. And even nations that were 'neutral' before the Ukraine invasion felt so threatened that, they too joined NATO.

Putin waited for the right time to go after Ukraine, and Biden presented the right opportunity. No doubt Putin was going after other countries after Ukraine, but Putin met with resistance he didn't expect, especially from Biden. Biden is only helping Ukraine now because, he disastrously left Afghanistan and didn't want a second Afghanistan on his watch. But, Biden still needs to be impeached for creating all kinds of disasters, both at home and abroad. In a way, Ukraine is a beneficiary of Biden's debacle in Afghanistan.

Corruption in Ukraine needs to be dealt with, but after Russia is kicked out. Meanwhile, we need to keep aiding the people of Ukraine in getting rid of an unwelcome invader.

[Kazan]

But,the desire by Putin and the Kremlin predates Obama and Biden.

It was Putin or the Russians that fomented an illegal coup in 2014 that setoff a civil war. That was us that did that. A President was illegally driven out of office, one those in Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea voted for. Those regions had no obligation to be part of an illegally-formed Ukrainian nationalist government that sought to persecute and kill them.

We were the ones that promised in the early 1990s, no eastward expansion of NATO. We went on to expand to the Russian border and tease NATO membership for Ukraine, despite the fact the Ukraine had promised to remain a neutral country.

We trained, funded and armed a 600,000 man Ukrainian army. If Russia or China had done that in Mexico after installing a puppet government, we'd invade.

Trump was absolutely correct when he said this:

Washington: Former President Donald Trump said in an interview with the All-In podcast that the possibility of NATO expanding to Russia’s border has always been understood to be off the table and such rhetoric now is provocative.

“They don’t want to have it, it’s always been understood, and that’s even before Putin,” Trump said in the podcast that aired on Thursday. “It’s always been understood that was a no-no… that was very provocative, and now it’s even more provocative.”

Trump said that it’s understandable that Russia would be bothered by NATO troops on its border, adding that NATO’s eastward expansion is a key reason for the conflict and that President Biden’s rhetoric about envisioning Ukraine eventually joining NATO is even more provocative.

“Biden was saying all of the wrong things and one of the wrong things he was saying: ‘Ukraine will go into NATO,’…Biden, he was saying the opposite of what in my opinion you had to say…and he’s still saying it,” Trump said.

[Kazan]

Putin waited for the right time to go after Ukraine

That's absurd.

The Russians came to us with their security concerns in December of 2021, trying to AVOID this war.

The Russians and Ukrainians had a peace deal in place in Turkey in 2022 because Boris Johnson (and, no doubt, the Biden regime) killed it. That was confirmed by former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett.

You're narrative is a lie and has pushed us into a failed proxy war with Russia that could lead to WW III or nuclear war.