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To: Robert DeLong
Semantics, matters not.

You are trying to brush it aside as a "semantic" issue, and it is not. There is, and always was, a very real and distinct difference between a "Citizen" and a "Subject."

"Subject" is Monarchist, and requires all the inherent foundational principles of Monarchy, up to and including "perpetual allegiance" to the King. Common law only deals with Monarchy principles, not Republican Principles.

Therefore, *OUR* "citizen" is not based on Common law, it is based on natural law principles consistent with Republican government.

Our understanding of "Citizen" comes from Vattel, not British common law regarding "Subjects."

104 posted on 06/24/2024 7:04:36 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Because you incorrectly stated that they went from being subjects to being citizens when the Constitution was created, but as I stated that transformation occurred under the Declaration of Independence. By the time of the adoption of the Constitution, they were citizens, who migrated into the now established nation of the United States of America as not merely citizens, but Natural Born Citizens if indeed they were born into the lands now defined as the United States of America, even if that birth had occurred prior to the actual existence as the now named landmass.

Martin Van Buren, was the first president born in the country under that name change. But History.com is trying very hard to undercut our first 7 presidents as not being NBC, do so as they are leftists who want to put the NBC qualification into question.

108 posted on 06/24/2024 8:23:47 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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