Posted on 06/22/2024 4:11:15 AM PDT by SaveFerris
Pastor Greg Laurie and Pastor Don Stewart discuss why America is not mentioned in the Bible as a part of the last days. Are we no longer a Superpower? Are we no longer a nation? All this and more in this video you will not want to miss
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There’s definitely a lot of that on the threads where Cameron was bragging about hitting Russia with Storm Shadow missiles, where they were hitting long-range Russian radar, when Democrat Reprobate Joe Biden and company talk about having to wind up in a battle with Russia. A lot of posturing going on.
Wars and rumors of war? Maybe so.
“... I pay my bills, help others when I can, Im kind to all”
If that’s how you define “fine with Christ”, then you aren’t. Isaiah 64:6: “But we are all as an unclean thing, and ALL OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS ARE AS FILTHY RAGS”
“Gtf out”
Kind to all?
[The United States lost its way, a lot further back than most people can even imagine, and is not the shining city on the hill for anyone to emulate.]
That, unfortunately, seems to be true.
Here is America’s “leadership” - with a “gospel” singer - and they can’t resist pushing an abomination with the “praise and worship”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7MVn1IM7tc
(look to the left for a guy wearing a dress)
Weird.
I just watched the video again and I can find nowhere that they said “Satan is going to kill you”.
Is that too harsh? Sorry if my realism offends your sensitivities. I just have a strong aversion to fear based manipulations and brimstone bs.
If you read Revelations 13, the Second Beast rises in the area where there was few people. America, as founded, was as closes to Heaven on Earth as we can make it. America is heading the way of socialism and, if it becomes fully socialist, then it will become a historically evil nation on par with both the 20th tyrannies.
The False Prophet will claim to speak from God. I don’t see any politician claiming to have a message from God
I can’t agree my friend BUT I AM glad that you’re reading God’s Word.
That’s an excellent start.
God bless you.
The video is nine years old. His hair is no longer like that. He has his own YouTube channel, talking prophecy. He is right, though. I think it’ll be the Rapture that brings this country down.
Thanks for the update. I had never seen this gentleman before but I was well-aware of Greg Laurie.
Time is going to tell, my brother.
Look up!
Luke 21:34-36
Of course, IMHO, a man (or woman) can ONLY be worthy by the shed blood of our Savior Jesus Christ.
The second beast isn’t a country. It’s a person.
That’s what I did wrong - should have just gone Religion
Meant to add the following topics:
ministry, theology, evangelical, protestant
Been up for 16 hours or so, LOL.
[The Second Beast isn’t a country. It’s a person.]
I agree. The Second Beast, along with the Antichrist are seized at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ (Revelation chapter 19).
The Antichrist (first Beast) and the False Prophet are thrown into the Lake of Fire immediately after Armageddon.
I think Rev 18.7-15 could include America.
No real reason- every nation practically is not mentioned in the bible. Some are referred to.
Rev 12:14 (KJV)
And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
That great eagle is probably the sole (soul?) mention of the US in Revelation.
Britain and Spain literally had the world divided between them two for even longer than we have been a super power and they were not mentioned either.
Frankly I think what is left of England is there - in Daniel and then also referenced in Revelation
Daniel 7:4
New King James Version
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings. I watched till its wings were plucked off; and it was lifted up from the earth and made to stand on two feet like a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
Now, Irvin Baxter (didn’t agree with him totally but once talked to him on his radio show) believed the man was America that came out of the lion with eagle’s wings (GB, and that I do agree)
I’m gonna post some views about the trumpets- these are held by some scholars, but not me, but still worth a read- some feel that the first 4 trumpets have already taken place, and they explain why- I don’t buy it, but I can’t entirely discount it either. The main point will be that yes, great nations, events were and will happen, some being things like the world war 1, but not 2, chernobyl (whose greek word is wormwood), etc.
Anyway, worth a read I think. Yes America is great, but perhaps not great enough to have been mentioned by the bible unless they were talking about world war 1, and certainly not great enough a disaster to be counted as significant
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65] Michael Wilcox, The Message of Revelation: I Saw Heaven Opened, in The Bible Speaks Today, eds. J. A. Motyer and John R. W. Stott (Downers Grove, Illinois: Inter-Varsity Press, c1975, 1986), 74-77.
a) The First Seal (Revelation 6:1-2 ) - The first seal reveals the first church age in which the Roman Empire, and the Catholic Church that emerged out of this empire, were the primary persecutors of the saints of God (Revelation 6:1-2). It is symbolized by the crown, showing its intent to conquer and rule over all peoples and places. Unlike the sword carried by the second horseman, the bow symbolizes its purpose to conquer, but not kill, those whom it dominates. The white symbolizes the color of the papacy.
b) The Second Seal (Revelation 6:3-4 ) - The second age of the Church saw the rise of Islam during the seventh century, with its symbol of the sword, showing its purpose was to kill men rather than to rule over them (Revelation 6:3-4). This great persecutor of the Church initially targeted all Jews and Christians, as well as other peoples, but it has continuously killed its fellow Muslims throughout the ages. The red may symbolize the blood it sheds in behalf of its religion.
c) The Third Seal (Revelation 6:5-6 ) - The third age of the Church is capitalism, with its purpose of controlling the world’s economy by a few wealthy individuals (Revelation 6:5-6). The scale represents its system of buying and selling to control men and nations. The black color is seen in the traditional black suit worn today by the leaders of businesses within this capitalistic system. This system arose with the rise of industrialization of western nations. All three of these systems, Roman Catholicism, Islam, and Capitalism, carry the spirit of anti-christ.
d) The Fourth Seal (Revelation 6:7-8 ) - The pale horse, with its riders Death and Hell (Revelation 6:7-8) represent the fourth age, which immediately precedes the Great Tribulation Period. This is the period in which the earth enters into travail as birth pangs, which Jesus called the “beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:8). This period takes place about one hundred years before the world enters into the Great Seven-year Tribulation Period. Perhaps this period began with World War I. It is a time when the three world systems of Catholicism, Islam and Capitalism are working in full force, and in conflict with one another, but all having the common mindset of hating the Jews and the Christians.
e) The Fifth Seal (Revelation 6:9-11 ) - The fifth seal reveals all of the saints slain during the Church age until its culmination, crying out for God’s vengeance (Revelation 6:9-11). Their role in this series of events is to intercede in behalf of one another to move God to avenge them and bring judgment upon the earth.
f) The Sixth Seal (Revelation 6:12 to Revelation 7:17 ) - The sixth seal clearly describes the seven-year Tribulation Period upon this earth, which culminates with Christ Jesus returning to earth to conquer and to rule and reign from Jerusalem for a thousand years (Revelation 6:12 to Revelation 7:17). It is during this period of Church history that many of the Jews will turn to Jesus Christ as their Messiah. God will seal them along with His saints to keep them during the Tribulation Period, described in Revelation 6:17 as “the great day of his wrath” and in Revelation 7:14 as “the great tribulation.”
g) The Seventh Seal (Revelation 8:1 to Revelation 11:19 ) The seventh seal serves as a prelude to introduce the seven trumpets. At this time the prayers of the saints rises up before the throne of God and the angel casts fire from the golden altar down upon the earth in order to bring about judgment upon those who have resisted God and persecuted the saints.
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I discuss the views of several scholars below. Some scholars suggest that these four horsemen are to be sent forth upon the earth immediately after the Rapture of the Church. Others suggest that they have been sent out at different periods of Church history. My suggestion is to agree with this second view that these four horsemen represent four spirits that have been sent forth upon the earth during the last two thousand years of Church history. The white horse would represent the spirit of Catholicism, which began during the Christianization of the Roman Empire under Constantine. The red horse could represent the spirit of Islam, which began in the seventh century. The black horse would represent capitalism, which began after the Reformation when nations began to develop industry and strong economies; or the black horse could represent Communism, which had its roots in the teachings of Karl Marx and was instituted in Russia during the early twentieth century. The pale horse could represent the distress and travail that the earth will enter into prior to the Tribulation Period. All of these spirits have led to the persecution of the Church across the world. This is why the fifth seal reveals the martyrs who have been slain over this period of time. Note that the martyrs are crying out, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?” This suggests that they have not been slain since the start of the Great Tribulation, but perhaps during the last two thousand years of Church history.
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Verses 13-21
The Sixth Trumpet In the sixth trumpet God releases a vast army of horsemen who are allowed to kill one third of the men upon the earth by fire, smoke and brimstone.
The Sixth Trumpet Interpreted as Nuclear War - Irvin Baxter believes this refers to a nuclear war involving China, and perhaps the United States. [79]
[79] Irvin Baxter, Jr., Understanding the End Time: Lesson 12 The Seven Trumpets (Richmond, Indiana: Endtime, Inc., 1986) [on-line]; accessed 1 October 2008; available from http://www.endtime.com/Audio.aspx; Internet.
Revelation 9:16 Comments - Irvin Baxter says that Mao Zedong, China’s former Communist leader, “boasted” in his diary that he could raise an army of two hundred million men. Therefore, he suggests the army referred to in Revelation 9:16 comes from China. He notes China’s tremendous economic growth and military build-up. They have recently absorbed Hong Kong’s economy, and have their eyes on Taiwan, with its strong economy. [80]
[80] Irvin Baxter, Jr., Understanding the End Time: Lesson 12 The Seven Trumpets (Richmond, Indiana: Endtime, Inc., 1986) [on-line]; accessed 1 October 2008; available from http://www.endtime.com/Audio.aspx; Internet.
Revelation 9:20 “yet repented not of the works of their hands” - Comments - The purpose of God’s judgment is for redemption. Every time God brings chastisement and judgment upon mankind it has been for the purpose of redeeming them. However, the last and final judgment will not be redemptive. Rather, it will be to demonstrate God’s holiness and implement final justice to a fallen race
https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/ghe/revelation-9.html
He misses the obvious answer, even though his answer is logically correct as well. The obvious answer if that the leader of America, Biden, is not a Jewish supporter, and therefore does not support Israel.
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