Posted on 06/01/2024 7:19:56 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
But the news reports of the $60,000 to replace an Ioniq5 battery after minor road impact. https://youtu.be/EEXieo06ta8?si=DF0xqiyTlXtm4s-n Brand new cars were totaled for scratches on the underpan!
NO WAY NO HOW!
This and many other crapy design bug, occur from massive government meddling. Quality takes time!
A cheap EV city car could work well... but BIG GOV just doubled the price on them to kiss UAW ass.
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“But the news reports of the $60,000 to replace an Ioniq5 battery after minor road impact. “
What pisses me off about EVs is the way insurance companies are now REQUIRED to price-in most of their their losses on EVs to customers driving gasoline cars. It’s causing hell for people smart enough to have nothing to do with EVs.
“A cheap EV city car could work well... but BIG GOV just doubled the price on them to kiss UAW ass.”
The government subsidies (tx credits for cars that were only EV cars) and what has become a branch of the gpvernment - the U.S. auto industry ruined what could have been a natural evolving development of EVs, and you are right about what the 1st EVs ought to have been and maybe still ouught to be - runabouts for city living.
An EV industry starting out that way without government demands and subsidies would have had a natural evolution, in type of cars and price, from small EVs for running around city environments, to full size sedans.
Instead the government and the idustry chose to try to replace the full size ICE sedan, right away. It has been the most expensive beginning of a new industry ever. Expensive to build and expensive for the people the government wants t force into an EV.
Even the charging networks have not been a allowed a natural evolution, which would have happened on its own in cities if that is where most EVs were marketed for to start with. As the cars evolved, over likely a few decades, the charging networks, without government subsidy or demand, would have expanded out from the cities, on its own, as a good private enterprise capital investmen WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT.
Ford and GM have both suspended well cancelled plans to build a couple new facilities for battery and Eevee assembly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thats OK!
Canada will take up the slack with German and European investment, under the DAVOS leadership of Canada’s village idiot , Justin Trudeau.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-northvolt-ev-battery-factory-1.6980767
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/st-thomas-ev-battery-plant-volkwagen-subsidy-1.6876156
As is said frequently here in Canuckistan: Truck Fudeau!
Big amen!
As for the environmental impacts of EV's, I point this out every now and then. Usually it's when I'm driving our EV on a trip and I'm at a fast charger, right after another EV owner thanks me for "doing your part to save the environment" or whatever. LOL
I tell them that us EV owners and solar owners would freak out if we all saw what went into making them. I sometimes show them this graph, and point out that NASA used to put out graphs like this to.
Insurance will be the killer , have an accident in an EV and they right it off because there are so many unknowns . The EV pushers are living in a fantasy world
7.5 billion dollars gubmint spending and 7 chargers to show for it so far after 1 year. The charger program puts the Solyndra grift to shame. EVs may not be a panacea for the nation but it sure seems they may be a panacea for Democrat politicians.
Listening to this guy is silly.
—”Even the charging networks have not been a allowed a natural evolution...”
In the all-too-close city of Chicago, they went all in for electric scooters/bicycles.
The cost of a receptacle to power the chargers was beyond believable. It’s not some massive power-hungry Hummer charger.
$40,000 and up! for half a dozen 110V receptacles to charge a few scooters.
Yes, it was union this and union that, but it was still crazy money.
In Chicago it takes FIVE to mow a small front lawn; one coming, one going, one sh!t!ng, one mowing, and a supervisor.
Tesla makes a good product, my sister owns one, and many of my neighbors too. I loved the G-70 EV but I can wait.
Well your global warming chart explains why the Roman Empire ceased to exist, global warming! The Romans do not deal with the excess carbon they were generating! 🤔 exactly where were the Romans getting their carbon from? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
EVs don’t do well on the secondary market - why buy a used EV when you will have to change out the used battery at a tremendous cost?
—”Canada will take up the slack”
And with NAFTA no problamo.
Still, IMO most will be made in Mexico.
Hecho en México
Correction. Most will be made in China, shipped to Mexico, get a "made in Mexico" stamp, then shipped to the U.S.
Oversight of the government is not being applied, and so, government (specifically, government controlled by democrats), is getting away with violating the law.
Regulation does not equal mandates.
Government has the right to regulate interstate commerce, but that does not give government the power to dictate how any industry is run, and when it comes to EVs, they have gone way beyond their jurisdiction and way beyond the meaning of ‘regulate’. When government mandates, that’s equal to dictating how a company or an industry is run, and its equal to what a company or an industry produces. EVs being dictated by government is against the law, and EV charging stations from government, is against the law. In essence, government has been taking over the EV industry, and dictating to that industry is just like what a communist country would do.
Oversight of all parts of the government belongs with congress and with the courts. Neither congress nor the courts have been doing their jobs. Meanwhile, the people are being dictated to, and industry has been dictated to. Government of and by and for the people, does not mean a tyranny or a dictatorship.
—”Insurance will be the killer “
Just one scratched under pan and you will ride a bicycle the rest of your life.
” A second IONIQ 5 owner in eastern Canada also has a battery protection cover scratched, the owner was also told the battery needed to be replace for more than the cost of a brand new Hyundai IONIQ 5.”
It is believed they ran over a dropped muffler in the roadway.
https://youtu.be/EEXieo06ta8?si=F0wPMd2QZkPSPmxa
The Republicans could make an effective ad this fall warning people that if Biden is re-elected he will continue his push to take away their gas-powered cars. Very few people want to drive EVs and even fewer want to be forced to drive them. But I don’t expect the Republicans to make such an ad.
—”7.5 billion dollars gubmint spending and 7 chargers to show for it so far after 1 year.”
See #10 and add LGXYZ?BS, plus many “unusual” design specs added to grease some palms, a cookie-cutter design that only works in a moderate climate...
Then add all the state and local requirements $$$.
Only red-headed trans electricians need apply.
All contractors on the bid list must also be on the heavy hitter donors list...
—”Listening to this guy is silly.”
Show us where he is wrong.
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