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To: JonPreston
Aren't wars fought to win? And please name where we have had a good outcome in the past 30 years?

No!!! We don't necessarily fight to win. If we are attacked (which we haven't), then, and only then, we would have to fight to win.

We have fought in foreign wars since the country was founded. We fought in WW1 and WW2, and we won, but, we didn't really win, since what was won was the peace in the areas of conflict. For over 80 years, we've had relative peace in those countries that we fought in, including Iraq. We continue to keep the peace in Europe and Asia and even in Africa and in our hemisphere. No big wars have come our way, and none are expected. Big wars may come our way when we abandon our policeman efforts. Our military or defense department is for 'defense' and defense is not about winning alone; it's for deterrence, and that deterrence has worked fine for over 80 years.

so, YES!!!, we've had good outcomes around the world, where relative peace is the ongoing result. Israel and Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah are always at war, but those wars are contained in that area of the world, and not spreading. We are helping Israel to win, but, it's not for us to win. We are helping Ukraine, but we are mostly funding them and providing weapons; but we are not there to get a U.S. victory. Europe will get involved before we have to enter the fight. And even then, it's not for a win for us

Without the U.S. 'winning' the peace, the world would have experienced many wars, perhaps even another world war. So, yes, we have won by preventing wars.
67 posted on 05/30/2024 3:16:28 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: adorno
We don't necessarily fight to win.

In which wars did fight not to win?

68 posted on 05/30/2024 3:24:48 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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