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To: aquila48

Our electricy in the USA comes from Coal, Gas, combined (coal+gas) and nuclear.
The industry has about a 45% efficiency.
As a reminder, gasoline (ICE) is 20% efficient and that’s NOT counting the energy to drill, pump, refined, and transport it to the pump. So we are looking at probably 15% max efficiency, versus a 45% efficient source, combined with a 80% efficient motive.

But WHO CARES?

I want 0-60 in 2.9 seconds! I can get it with electric for < 100K. In ICE it costs 1M$
I argued with luddites here who said electric cars were golf carts.
Yeah, well, the golf cart just passed your Lamborghini. Except the golf cart has 4 doors and you have to pour yourself into a Lambo.


23 posted on 05/11/2024 11:47:11 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
I want 0-60 in 2.9 seconds! I can get it with electric for < 100K. In ICE it costs 1M$

A Corvette C8 beats that time. Official base price is $68K, real life price is probably closer to 100K.

I appreciate you sticking around to respond without rancor. I see electric cars as being for people in the right situation being a suitable 2nd or 3rd car for those with a garage for charging, and certainly for businesses that can recharge at night, provided that energy storage improves a lot more or on the fly electrical generation improves (the Chevy Volt/Toyota Mirai approach).

The Boring Company tunnel system is an interesting idea that relies on electric cars, but I don't think it will be practical in most parts of the world.

Electric cars are quieter (good thing), are inherently more complex (less likely to be able to deal with most problems by yourself or a handy pal or a 3rd party kludge of an unavailable part), torquier (good thing in the right hands), more expensive.

My philosophical objection to hybrids is that I don't want my electric motor lugging around a heavy ICE engine and transmission; I don't want my ICE engine lugging around a heavy battery.

I believe that for those who want the benefits of an EV without the present range anxiety issues, etc., the Mazda hybrid approach, using a constant speed rotary engine powering the generator is the best one available in the bear-term. A Wankel going at constant speed does away with transmission issues, and should be geared for maximum efficiency.

I do not see myself having any interest for an EV or hybrid for myself, but I do not consider myself a typical car owner.
30 posted on 05/11/2024 12:31:56 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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To: BereanBrain

Jump in your Tesla,
I’ll be driving a 5.0.
We’re gonna race from
Houston to Albuquerque
in August, when temps are
a nice, toasty, 117 deg/f.
Wanna bet I get there
first?
You compare efficiencies
between ICE and EV power
sources. Once they’re
placed into their working
environments, many things
influence a power sources’
efficiency.
Running the AC, headlights,
wipers, window defroster,
extreme ambient temperatures,
all play a part on the the
efficiency of either power-
plant. In this type scenario,
the ICE vehicle remains on
top, if for nothing else,
for comfort and convenience
(time).


34 posted on 05/11/2024 1:48:04 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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