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Shenandoah County School Board votes to restore the Confederate Names of schools
WHSV ^ | May. 10, 2024 | Mike Staley

Posted on 05/10/2024 4:48:28 AM PDT by JSM_Liberty

For the first time in United States history, a school district that changed the name of schools that honored Confederate generals, voted to restore the Confederate names years later.

The Shenandoah County School Board held a public hearing on May 9 at Peter Muhlenberg Middle School to discuss restoring the names of Mountain View High School and Honey Run Elementary School to Stonewall Jackson High School and Ashby Lee Elementary School.

At the hearing, residents voiced their opinions on the school’s current names and whether they agreed with the restoration or were against it. In 2020, the school board elected to change the names to abolish the recognition of Confederate generals like many other school systems.’

The board members who voted in favor of the restoration of the Confederate names said the 2020 board took shortcuts and made decisions without public opinion. “This was not an innocent mistake by some inexperienced school board,” District 2 School Board member Gloria Carlineo said. “No, this was a carefully choreographed advance of a school board alluding to ignore the people they represented.”

At the hearing, people were loud when they spoke about their opinions. After each speaker, audience members who agreed with their opinions roared with clapping and shouting to show their support. In the audience, there were equal amounts of people for and against the restoration of the names.

People who argued against the restoration said protecting African-American children is the number one priority. Many people who spoke up, including students who deal with or see racism in their schools, said the changes would exacerbate the issues already present in the schools.

“If you vote to restore the name ‘Stonewall Jackson’ in 2024, you will be resurrecting an act in 1959 that is forever rooted in mass resistance and Jim Crow segregation,” one concerned resident said.

Comments were not limited to people against the name changes. People who were for the change said the 2020 school board deceived them, and they deserve to have an input in the decisions made by the school board.

“I’m fed up on people lying about how our schools were named,” a resident in favor of the change said. “I think it’s really rich that people lecture me about morality but excuse the actions of the 2020 school board.”

Kyle Gutshall, District 4 member, was the only “No” vote for the restoration of the names. He said there are no clear answers for the restoration.

“We’ve talked about the right way, the wrong way to do it,” Gutshall said. “The right thing to do, the wrong thing to do. Things like this really come down to perspective and how you view things.”

Ultimately, the board voted to restore the names of those schools and the legacies those names carry in the community.

“People in the Shenandoah Valley say that only the confederates are the ones who did nasty things, or did nasty things to black people,” Dennis Barlow, school board chair, said. “You just stopped reading your history, and you’re not being realistic. War’s hell.”


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: confederate; education; lostcause; virginia
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1 posted on 05/10/2024 4:48:28 AM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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To: JSM_Liberty

get ready for the leftist progressive meltdown followed by the guilt trips and demands to change the names back to the progressives preferred pronouns and Apologies for even ATTEMPTING to thwart the progressive movement. remember friends...”Only the Weak apologize to the petulant” L.Star


2 posted on 05/10/2024 4:56:04 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star n )
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To: JSM_Liberty

This is exhibit 1 about what happens when people pay attention to local politics and vote good people in.


3 posted on 05/10/2024 5:16:39 AM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: JSM_Liberty

I graduated from a confederate general High School. It’s that just below a hill that this confederate general defended with fake cannons made out of Oak tree trunks.

IIRC if I recall correctly and they were going to name the high school after the hill, but there was consternation back in the 50s about that so they just said okay here’s something that shoved down your throat and they named it after the confederate general.

They changed the name a couple years ago and even asked alumni what they thought and they got a lot of responses of “don’t change it. But the powers that be in Northern Virginia said we’re going to rename it anyway.


4 posted on 05/10/2024 5:21:35 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: JSM_Liberty

I really, really, really hope there are some libs who are really, really, really offended by this.


5 posted on 05/10/2024 5:21:52 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: JSM_Liberty

They need to be prepared for the marxist mob to come for them.


6 posted on 05/10/2024 5:28:00 AM PDT by dynachrome ("God grant I don't outlive my wits.")
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To: JSM_Liberty
Confederate troops and the slaves on loan to the war effort got along great. Who helped CSA troops build all the fortifications around Atlanta and Petersburg? Who drove al the confederates ambulances, supply trains?


7 posted on 05/10/2024 5:31:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: JSM_Liberty

This county is in a mountainous area, which actually was partially Unionist. It also has 2% black population. Therefore, probably support for Confederate names.


8 posted on 05/10/2024 5:41:04 AM PDT by xxqqzz
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To: JSM_Liberty

A dim glimmer of hope soon to be hammered out by lawfare.


9 posted on 05/10/2024 6:40:50 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Sequoyah101

Shenandoah-Great movie. James Stewart was at the top of his game. Technicolor was new.


10 posted on 05/10/2024 6:56:54 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: central_va

How many stayed on the farm or plantations after being freed?.


11 posted on 05/10/2024 7:01:42 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: JSM_Liberty

Not good to honor either slavers or black radical favorites like Trayvon Martin. There are plenty of patriotic, freedom- loving-for-all Americans whose names could have been used.


12 posted on 05/10/2024 7:42:57 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: JSM_Liberty

Perhaps we can rename certain Military Posts back to the Historic names too. Ft.Bragg was my Alma mater.


13 posted on 05/10/2024 7:43:59 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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I went to Robert E Lee High School. We were the Rebels


14 posted on 05/10/2024 7:44:08 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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And apparently they have changed the name to Legacy High School

And this is in West Texas!


15 posted on 05/10/2024 7:47:59 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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They changed Lee High in Baton Rouge to Liberty High and now they’re the Patriots. The name is wrong but the sentiment is right.


16 posted on 05/10/2024 7:48:35 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: Socon-Econ
Not good to honor either slavers . . . ."

So, I guess George Washington is off your personal list, huh? Thomas Jefferson? James Madison? Patrick Henry?

Personally, I think "honoring" mortal men in this fashion, any men, borders on idolatry anyway, and so would prefer another course of action. But in that I'm aware that mine is a minority view in this regard, my default fallback position is that people in a given community should honor those whom they believe are worthy of honor, and that those outside of those communities should, you know, mind their own effin' business.

At the same time, I'm well aware that there are plenty of self-identifying "conservatives" who will never leave well enough alone, who will although pursue their own ideological and/or cultural agenda, who will always seek to impose their worldview on everybody else. Indistinguishable from Leftists.

17 posted on 05/10/2024 7:57:27 AM PDT by DSH
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Those you listed didn’t fight against the United States.


18 posted on 05/10/2024 8:42:44 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OFRICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER ngressman is.GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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Those you listed didn’t fight against the United States.

They were all slave owners (or "slavers," as the poster I was responding to termed it).

And, anyway, my ultimate point remains: if the people of a given community (in this case, Shenandoah County, Virginia) wish to name their public schools after men who those in the community hold in esteem, I don't see why that should be of concern to, much less the business of, those outside that community.

But I guess those who consider themselves "conservatives" are susceptible to the same failing that manifests among those on the Left, namely, the overarching desire to tell people not only how they must live but, also, how they must think. If that's what this country stands for today, well, reason enough to reject it, if you ask me.

19 posted on 05/10/2024 10:43:40 AM PDT by DSH
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They can do so if they wish. I just wish that the Southern Unionists would get thier due.


20 posted on 05/10/2024 12:34:43 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER ngressman is.GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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