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To: woodpusher
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state.

Nobody is questioning a record from Hawaii that actually proves birth in Hawaii. They just haven't submitted such a record, nor are they required by law to create one.

Their document is not the equivalent of similar documents created in other states. It does not serve the purpose of proving birth in the state.

And they haven't even shown us an original document.

Hawaii proved and published documentation of Obama's birth

They showed documentation of his birth, but they haven't proven it occurred in Hawaii.

139 posted on 04/27/2024 9:00:43 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Their document is not the equivalent of similar documents created in other states. It does not serve the purpose of proving birth in the state.

As already shown to you in my #49:

When a State "proves" a State record, that record must, pursuant to the Constitution, be accepted in every court in the United States. That has been going on since 1789.

U.S. Constitution

Article IV

Section 1.

Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_44

Rule 44. Proving an Official Record

(a) Means of Proving.

(1) Domestic Record. Each of the following evidences an official record—or an entry in it—that is otherwise admissible and is kept within the United States, any state, district, or commonwealth, or any territory subject to the administrative or judicial jurisdiction of the United States:

(A) an official publication of the record; or

(B) a copy attested by the officer with legal custody of the record—or by the officer's deputy—and accompanied by a certificate that the officer has custody. The certificate must be made under seal:

(i) by a judge of a court of record in the district or political subdivision where the record is kept; or

(ii) by any public officer with a seal of office and with official duties in the district or political subdivision where the record is kept.

(2) Foreign Record.

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140 posted on 04/27/2024 9:25:57 AM PDT by woodpusher
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