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Cardinals Hall-of-Fame manager Whitey Herzog dies at 92
Fox 2 News-St. Louis ^ | April 16, 2024 | Joey Schneider

Posted on 04/16/2024 8:43:56 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment

ST. LOUIS – Whitey Herzog, the St. Louis Cardinals’ Hall-of-Fame manager of the decorated 1980s era, has died at the age of 92, per several reports.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that Herzog has passed away, citing information from an official with the Cardinals. Several other media outlets, including The Athletic, have also confirmed.

Whitey Herzog managed the Cardinals for 11 seasons from 1980 to 1990, winning a World Series title in 1982 and National League pennants in 1985 and 1987. He was inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 2010.


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Whitey was from the old school of baseball. He was a local legend, and a National Baseball Hall of Famer.
1 posted on 04/16/2024 8:43:56 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

The man was the end of an era of baseball that I loved.
When he left, I went with him, more than less.

Baseball has never been the same, IMO.

R.I.P. and thank you for so many great memories...


2 posted on 04/16/2024 8:48:49 AM PDT by No!
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Grew up in Dallas and learned to love baseball when the Rangers came in the early 70s. We had Ted Williams, Billy Martin, and Whitey Herzog as managers, good baseball men.
Different era, game was changing.


3 posted on 04/16/2024 9:01:31 AM PDT by Jolla
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Herzog turned out to be a bit of a throw back with his small ball philosophy. Although his record speaks for itself.


4 posted on 04/16/2024 9:06:11 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

The White Rat.


5 posted on 04/16/2024 9:10:53 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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In the early 80's, Herzog had a fast team, but few power hitters, and he knew that to score runs they had to be very aggressive on the bases.

The game is so different today, that the analytics pretty much force players to fit into the mold of taking walks and hitting homers.

For comparison, the 1982 World Series winners had 200 stolen bases as a team, with Lonnie Smith leading with 68. The '23 team had only 101 steals, with Edman leading the team with 27, The '82 team had 142 sacrifice hits, the '23 Cardinals had only 50. Small ball (Whitey Ball) worked.

And, the Cardinals had Bruce Sutter, which might have helped a whole lot, too!

6 posted on 04/16/2024 9:24:50 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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He focused on pitching, defense and speed.

The Ozzie Smith for Garry Templeton trade turned out to be pure genius. Both were stellar shortstops (Ozzie was better, though). But ozzie (wizard of oz) was magical at short; great on the bases, and one of the hardest “outs” I’ve ever seen. He must have spoiled 1000 2-strike pitches by fouling them off.

I really enjoyed Herzog’s style of baseball.


7 posted on 04/16/2024 9:42:52 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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As Jerry Seinfeld noted in 1987: it’s the only time a black shortstop can call his manager Whitey.


8 posted on 04/16/2024 9:45:58 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Herzog also had a lot of success managing the KC Royals in the 1970s.


9 posted on 04/16/2024 10:06:26 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Lest anyone forget, Whitey Herzog was also a very successful manager with the Kansas City Royals before moving to St. Louis. His regular-season win percentage at KC was higher than that at St. Louis but he didn’t have the post-season success at KC like he did at St. Louis. He is a member of both teams’ HOF as well as baseball’s HOF.


10 posted on 04/16/2024 10:08:56 AM PDT by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

R.I.P., Whitey! Your teams were a LOT of fun to watch.


11 posted on 04/16/2024 10:09:54 AM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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Herzog also had a lot of success managing the KC Royals in the 1970s.

Beat me by 2 1/2 minutes.

12 posted on 04/16/2024 10:09:58 AM PDT by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

RIP.


13 posted on 04/16/2024 10:22:40 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (God save the United States!)
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Wow.

Within 3 days, we lose Herzog, Ken Holtzman, wife-swapper Fritz Peterson, and Carl Erskine.

And within the week, lost NY Mets catcher Jerry Grote.

14 posted on 04/16/2024 11:40:12 AM PDT by PallMal
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Herzog. Holtzman. Gullett. Grote. All have passed within the last few days and weeks. Baseball was once enjoyable.


15 posted on 04/16/2024 12:52:30 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Cody's Wish: thank you.)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Probably the fastest team in baseball history. Sprinters who could hit right or left side of the plate and stretch a single into a double or triple. And Ozzie doing ballet at Shortstop.

From a fan viewpoint, an exciting and interesting game.

Thanks Whitey.


16 posted on 04/16/2024 1:01:37 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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Jack Clark and 8 leadoff hitters


17 posted on 04/16/2024 1:20:45 PM PDT by Tymesup
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I got to meet him once. What a great manager. Rest in peace, Whitey.


18 posted on 04/16/2024 1:35:05 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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As told by the great Vin Scully:

One of the things that Bill Veeck did as a promotion, he signed Satchel Paige, who was very close to being 50 years old and still pitched very well in Triple-A. On that ballclub, back in 1956, was Whitey Herzog — now a Hall of Fame manager.

But Whitey was an outfielder, and they were playing in Rochester, New York, and Herzog was out in the outfield and he noticed a promotional thing in the Rochester ballpark. There was a hole in the fence in center field, and above it was a sign — “If you hit the ball in the air through the hole, you get $10,000.”

So Herzog went back into the clubhouse, got a bunch of balls, went out to center field and tried to throw a ball through the hole. And he couldn’t do it. So then when he went back in before the game started, Whitey was talking to Satchel Paige. And he said, “Satch, you see that hole out there in center field?”

And Paige said, “Yes, wild child.”

He said, “I’ll bet you a bottle of bourbon that you can’t throw the ball through that hole.”

So the next day, before batting practice, Herzog got a bunch of balls and he took Satchel Paige out. Herzog marched off 60 feet, 6 inches from the hole. He gave Satchel Paige the ball.

He gave Satchel Paige the ball. And Satchel said, “Wild child, does the ball fit through the hole?”

And Whitey Herzog said, “Satch, it sure does.”

He said, “Then you have a bet.”

So he held the ball up and looked over the ball like he was aiming a rifle. Now, Paige winds up and throws. The ball goes into the hole, spins around, and pops out again. And Herzog thinks, “Holy mackerel! He’ll never come any closer than that.”

Paige picks up the next ball, aims: right through the hole. Clean as a whistle. He said, “Wild child, I will take that,” and walked off the field.


19 posted on 04/16/2024 1:42:45 PM PDT by JZelle
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Herzog turned out to be a bit of a throw back with his small ball philosophy. Although his record speaks for itself.

Three World Series appearances in the 80s with the Cardinals. Yes they only won one of those Series, but hey, it's tough to win the World Series.

20 posted on 04/16/2024 3:12:29 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.c)
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