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Ford recalls more than 40,000 Bronco Sport and Escape models for fuel leak It's an expansion of a much larger recall from 2022
autoblog.com ^ | Apr 10th 2024 | JEREMY KORZENIEWSKI

Posted on 04/15/2024 6:15:46 AM PDT by V_TWIN

Ford issued a recall for 42,652 examples of its 2022-2023 Bronco Sport and 2022 Escape SUVs to address a fuel leak caused by a cracked fuel injector. Vehicles equipped with 1.5-liter EcoBoost engines are included in the recall. The fix includes the installation of a drain tube to redirect any leaking fuel from the engine to the ground along with a software update that adds fuel injector leak detection to the engine control unit.

This might sound eerily familiar to owners of these particular vehicles. Back in November of 2022, Ford issued a much larger recall covering a similar range of Escape and Bronco Sport models that also included cracked fuel injectors, a flash of the ECU and a fuel drain tube. So, what's the deal?

According to documents posted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, "Ford’s Internal Combustion Engines Propulsion Thermal Systems Engineering (IPTSE) team had identified leaks during component-level injector flow testing on fuel injectors recovered from two Bronco Sport vehicles that had experienced underhood fires" that happened after the original recall "clean point." In other words, these fires happened on vehicles produced after the date at which they were considered fixed.

These two vehicles had HX7G-9F597-BC fuel injectors, an improved design over the older HX7G-9F597-BB parts, and so therefore were not included in the original recall and did not receive the software update or the fuel drain tubes. "Ford’s decision not to include the updated engine control software on these vehicles was based on Ford’s assessment of the new injectors’ improved robustness," according to documents posted on the NHTSA site. Ford is aware of five underhood fires on vehicles with these updated injectors but without the updated software and drain tube.

Ford expect to mail owner notification letters in April 2024 (this month). Owners can also contact Ford customer service at 1-866-436-7332 and reference recall number 24S16. Naturally, all repairs will be done free of charge.


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KEYWORDS: automotive; bronco; broncosport; escapesuvs; ford; fuel; fuelleak; leak; recall
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To: V_TWIN

> The engineer that thought up that jacked up fix musta got his degree from toys R US. <

The engineers no longer call the shots in these companies. So I’m guessing an engineer was told to fix the problem, but don’t spent more than $5 per car.


21 posted on 04/15/2024 6:48:38 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

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22 posted on 04/15/2024 6:50:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: montag813

A neighbor had an explorer a few years ago that went from park to drive all by itself in a grocery store parking lot and slammed head on against a wall before she could get it stopped.
If there had been someone standing in front of that vehicle they more than likely woulda been run over. SMH


23 posted on 04/15/2024 6:52:13 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN
Sounds familiar. I just had a repair for my '17 Ford Mustang (V6)
that had a leak in the fuel tank. Shelled out some bucks for
that repair.

Might be worth calling the customer service number on this one.

24 posted on 04/15/2024 6:54:22 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts (,,)
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To: V_TWIN
Also, I’m sure by now Mercedes Benz has improved design to alleviate the need for a fuel drain pan.

Nope. Throughout the production of the 404 gas engine model, 1955-1980 they all had drain pans.

There are perhaps 2 reasons for it.

Most of these sat, waiting for war without being driven and the gaskets would shrink as they dried out. Mine did, the second thing I had to do was rebuild the leaking carb.

The first thing was bypassing, then replacing the leaking fuel tank selector.

The other possible reason is those carbs have an unusual float allowing the engine to get fuel at a 45 degree angle in any direction.

When the vehicle is tilted all the way and you hit a bump, a little fuel can slosh out.

Of course the drain pan is then at such an angle, it doesn't do much, but at least it helps keep the fuel from contacting the hot exhaust manifold, then drains away any residual fuel when you come back down.

25 posted on 04/15/2024 6:57:25 AM PDT by Mogger (AreIn bookstores is a very expensive, beautifully bound in green leather Holy Koran. If one was goin)
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To: V_TWIN

That’s a myth that has been repeatedly disproven. Something from the crack addicts who write television scripts.


26 posted on 04/15/2024 7:15:54 AM PDT by LouAvul (DEI = Didn't Earn It. )
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To: V_TWIN

There are two reasons why I always set the parking brake.

1)To prevent things like that from happening

2)I live in a state with an annual safety inspection and they check that the parking brake works. If it’s never used it may seize up and need a repair to pass.


27 posted on 04/15/2024 7:18:13 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: Disambiguator
Sounds like a 2020s remix of the Ford Pinto debacle.

Nothing like that. The Pinto's problem was a design flaw that left the gas tank vulnerable to a rear end collision.

28 posted on 04/15/2024 7:26:06 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: V_TWIN

It’s a Pinto!
No, it’s Bronco!
What’s the difference?


29 posted on 04/15/2024 7:31:30 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: LouAvul

WHAT is a myth?


30 posted on 04/15/2024 8:22:56 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: pfflier

I meant that it’s an issue involving the fuel system that could lead to fires. It’s not EXACTLY the same thing, obviously.


31 posted on 04/15/2024 8:48:34 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: V_TWIN

i wonder if any of the findings were a result of “the darrell brooks waukesha road test”?


32 posted on 04/15/2024 9:11:07 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: V_TWIN
The fix includes the installation of a drain tube to redirect any leaking fuel from the engine to the ground.

That does not sound legit. The fix would to be to stop the leak. Can't believe anything on the internet anymore.

33 posted on 04/15/2024 9:16:06 AM PDT by CodeJockey (I'd like to change the world, but they won't give me the source code.)
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To: Disambiguator
It’s not EXACTLY the same thing, obviously.

Glad that you dis-ambiguated that. :>)

34 posted on 04/15/2024 9:26:09 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: V_TWIN

Things like this are the reason I gave up on American car companies years ago. Their culture is toxic, they’re a product of the Harvard MBA school of management that says to cut everything to the absolute minimum acceptable quality level to save money. Never use a metal part when plastic will do, never use two screws if you can get away with one.

Ford, GM, and Chrysler all suffer from the same problem, absolute bare minimum engineering designs that don’t hold up. The public blames the workers who build them but they’re not the problem, most of the foreign badged vehicles sold in the U.S. today are built here by U.S. workers and they aren’t crap like American brands. It’s the corporate philosophy of “build it as cheaply as we can” that directs the engineers to cut as many corners as they can.

The Bronco is a good looking vehicle but it’s cheaply built garbage and I’d never buy one. It’s a shame because it could fill a niche for a lot of people if it could be relied upon. The new Toyota Land Cruiser took a lot of styling cues from the retro look of the Bronco and I’d actually trust it to take off road. I’d never take a Bronco somewhere I couldn’t get a tow truck.


35 posted on 04/15/2024 9:44:59 AM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: GaryCrow

“The Bronco is a good looking vehicle...”

The old Bronco had its own distinct look IMO.

The new full size version ripped off the Jeep Wrangler 6 ways from Sunday if you ask me.


36 posted on 04/15/2024 9:51:53 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: pfflier
Glad that you dis-ambiguated that. :>)

This is what I do.

37 posted on 04/15/2024 10:14:10 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

Practice makes perfect.


38 posted on 04/15/2024 10:39:29 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: V_TWIN
Pour some gas on the ground and then throw a lit cigarette on it. It doesn't ignite. This link.

Ditto firing a gun into a gas tank. Hollywood has us believe it will ignite and explode. Another fairy tale believed by the gullible. Mythbusters has already demonstrated that gas tanks don't explode, even if the tank is mostly fumes. A full tank might even douse tracer rounds. Liquid gasoline or diesel isn't very flammable.

39 posted on 04/15/2024 12:14:50 PM PDT by LouAvul (DEI = Didn't Earn It. )
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To: V_TWIN

“...ford doesn’t want to spend the money on parts and labor to repair it correctly....”

Sounds like they need to find a much better injector design.


40 posted on 04/17/2024 9:29:55 AM PDT by Paladin2
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