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Pricing EVs right seems to be a shot in the arm. What to me is really interesting is the surge in hybrids, a sector infrequently mentioned because it's much less of a political flashpoint than EVs. Toyota has quietly built up a substantial lead in sales from these vehicles.
1 posted on 04/03/2024 3:12:35 PM PDT by Miami Rebel
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86% of minimal......is still minimal


2 posted on 04/03/2024 3:14:34 PM PDT by changeitback440
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To: Miami Rebel

Hybrid is the only we will go, in this house.


3 posted on 04/03/2024 3:15:20 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Ha! Ford sold 750,000 F series ICE trucks last year.


4 posted on 04/03/2024 3:18:58 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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The Democrats may transition into accepting hybrids. That will be a compromise for everyone.


5 posted on 04/03/2024 3:22:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Here are the reasons it is crazy to buy an EV of hybrid.
Insurance. The insurance market is changing rapidly.
After all the fires it seems the prudent thing would be for insurance to either raise rates to cover potential losses or to stop converge entirely. This includes shipping insurance, building insurance, car insurance and liability insurance.

Depreciation. Regardless of what a great deal you’re getting, you’re losing more money per month on an EV than on any ICE car not made in Russia.

Charging. EV’s might be practical if you charge them at home. But you have no idea if a charger will be available and if it’s working, or compatible, or has a bunch of bikers waiting for you to get out of the car. Biden promised seven billons would be spent on building chargers, but they’ve burned through a lot of money and built darned few.

Social. Remember when all Tesla drivers acted like smug aholes and told you they were saving the planet? More and more places are asking them to park well away from sane people.

Expense. Let’s say you make it to the end of life on your battery. Cough up another $15,000 to $45,000 when the car is only worth a fraction of that, but isn’t worn out or ugly. Not a problem with your ICE car.

There are other reasons, but any one of those should give a potential buyer pause.


6 posted on 04/03/2024 3:23:58 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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Taxpayer funded “sales”.

The taxpayer always gets screwed.


8 posted on 04/03/2024 3:32:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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A friend of mine has the Ford Lightning thing and he says it’s an around the town Girly truck , he can’t even go to his cottage , no place to charge when he gets there ,LOL


10 posted on 04/03/2024 3:34:11 PM PDT by butlerweave
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14 posted on 04/03/2024 3:38:53 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts (,,)
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The US automakers went to Biden with hat in hand and begged to be let off the mandatory quotas for EVs. They said “Let us count a hybrid as an EV in the quota.”


15 posted on 04/03/2024 3:43:20 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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I
hate
EVS

Sorry, tech fetishists and EV early adopters.

EVs are a method to neuter the US industry and destroy our freedom to have gas cars and for companies to provide us with gas. So China can win.

Your FRiend the Luddite.


18 posted on 04/03/2024 3:45:30 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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Article said repeat customers....

Tesla has them but without Tesla’s figure....
just 52.1% of electric vehicle (EV) owners said they will buy an EV next time they go car shopping. Oct 17, 2023

NPR
Headlines for electric vehicles have been piling up lately. Sales leveled off at around 9% of the new car market, and even dipped down at the start of the year. Feb 7, 2024

One forum had a good point. The EV technology, especially for the chargers and batteries, is evolving year by year. So the one you just bought will not fit the next charger and you’ll have to buy an adaptor or re-fit. Or your battery will not be available at places selling the next one. eCompanies will make money on what you have to do.


22 posted on 04/03/2024 3:53:07 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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If you order a gasoline car the dealer might call you later and say we cancelled your order but we have an EV same price and color you can have that one , it’s the dealer’s new scam


26 posted on 04/03/2024 4:05:37 PM PDT by butlerweave
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The Mach-E is butt ugly.


27 posted on 04/03/2024 4:09:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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The F-150 Lightning remained America’s best-selling electric pickup, with 7,743 units handed over

For comparison, the Pontiac Aztek, a company wrecking flop, sold about 27,000 per year for a while. A REAL F-150 sells north of 750,000 these days.
28 posted on 04/03/2024 4:11:22 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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So now For us increasing their loss per EV! Great News???


33 posted on 04/03/2024 4:15:07 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Staris and Bars Flags))
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How much is Ford losing on each EV the sell?


38 posted on 04/03/2024 4:22:07 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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The Mach-E was the second best-selling electric SUV behind Tesla’s Model Y.

What is the world coming to when the Mustang has become an SUV? That just ain't right.

41 posted on 04/03/2024 4:25:15 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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These are not sales to the end customer, these number are mostly shipments of these monstrosities from the factory to dealer lots ... that is counted as a “sale” at Ford and many other car makers.

I would say most of in not all of that “big” increase are just sitting on lots around the country taking up space.


50 posted on 04/03/2024 4:51:44 PM PDT by CapnJack ( )
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I’d like to see them make their EVs without Oil


52 posted on 04/03/2024 4:53:14 PM PDT by butlerweave
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I keep reading horror stories like one in the UK where it took a man 7 hours for a three hour trip because of of the need to recharge


53 posted on 04/03/2024 4:54:04 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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