Posted on 03/08/2024 9:52:17 AM PST by House Atreides
“When I said that electronic warfare will soon not be able to prevent FPV drones from flying over the battlefield, I was not joking. Several extraordinary solutions have already been invented that reduce the efforts of radio electronics engineers to zero.
Ukrainian channels publish photographs of a drone(presumably Russian drone) that was controlled via a fiber optic cable. Such a guidance system is not afraid of any interference, and the camera produces the most beautiful image without the slightest delay. So it’s time to equip armored vehicles with means of physically destroying drones.
Whether it will be a small-caliber air defense system, a laser or something similar to the Arena system - time will tell. But now it is necessary to seriously work in this direction. Drones remain cheap but are becoming more efficient, while tanks are only becoming more expensive.
So basically there was a 10km long fibre optic cable which was attached to drone and was being unwound in the air until it reached it's target. Btw militaries around the world already use some ATGM systems with wire guided systems" (Masno)
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These drones will be immune from (current) Ukrainian electronic warfare defense. We’ll soon see how effective these are and their numbers on the battlefields.
So we need to develop Flying Scissors?..................
And so, what was old is now new again.
Weren’t out T.O.W. anti-tank/armor missiles wire guided as well? At least the early versions?
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Yes. They were back in my era (Vietnam) and such systems are still extant.
can a drone kill a drone?
What did our garbage ruling class expect from the Russians. In September of 1949 the Russians exploded their first nuclear bomb - just a touch over 4 years after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Of course the Russians were going to rapidly advance their military technology.
Maybe a drone with a giant pair of scissors. Lol.
Actually I suppose an exploding drone would sever the cable too.
Oh I have a map posted to me on one of these threads that what the ruling class expects is that that utter incompetent dying of 1001 maladies Putin is going to take over much of the world, UNLESS we keep the Ukrainian laundramat going. They believe that the Russians are incompetent and will run out of stuff, well, 2 years ago, and they are going to take over the world unless we do something about it. The strategy is to irriate Russia, incite a color revolution and break up the Russian federation, which will happen because Putin and Russia are detested by the various warring factions in Russia. Oh and, if you think some of that sounds like problems we have at home, well don't even think it. We are superior in every way, and the Russians can do nothing. But if we don't worry and do something, they will take over the world anyway.
So, I don't know what our elite class of well-heeled dumpster divers believe, but that is what they tell me I should believe. Oh, and also, if you don't believe in keeping the rift going you are a neo-isolationist, which is, apparently a really evil thing.
“ can a drone kill a drone?”
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Probably using primitive means now with a MASSIVE, MASSIVE amount of LUCK. In the future I’m sure with more sophisticated technology with much higher kill successes per attempt,
still looking for plans for a pocket-sized emp device.
The Germans made some wire guided air to air missiles in WWII. The Ruhrstahl-Kramer RK 344 had a range of 1000 meters.
Simply an extension of TOW (Tube launched, Optically tracked, Wire guided) missile technology from the 1970s.
TOW missiles and MK 48 Torpedoes both use wire guidance to minimize jamming interference. It was only a matter of time until similar technology was extended to drones.
But Itapirkanmaa2 should get special mention for merely posting the Dolores Umbridge of Europe in a simple snippet from her stupid speech from only a day ago -- Ursula von der Leyen, the Orator, captivates her audience
Things are not as they seem....
Best wishes.
I am no expert, but I think you would need a multilayered system, these drones are flying at tree top level at most, which probably evades radar, so you need a low-level early warning system or a local area radar that only covers the surrounding area.
Then you need a repeatable low-cost way to take them out.
I was reading that Israel is testing out the Iron Beam, Laser system, that somehow has reduced the cost to fire a laser capable of taking out a drone to pennies.
Then maybe a CIWS as a last resort.
Just throwing out ideas.
I am no expert, but I think you would need a multilayered system, these drones are flying at tree top level at most, which probably evades radar, so you need a low-level early warning system or a local area radar that only covers the surrounding area.
Then you need a repeatable low-cost way to take them out.
I was reading that Israel is testing out the Iron Beam, Laser system, that somehow has reduced the cost to fire a laser capable of taking out a drone to pennies.
Then maybe a CIWS as a last resort.
Just throwing out ideas.
seems like this would have to be very short range. Fiber optic cable weights 752 kilograms (1757 lbs) per kilometer. Not sure if that weight is for a single strand or an average sized cable with many strands.
I have fiber optic (Brightspeed) cable in my home. Fragile. Much, much smaller than RG6. But 2 years running and no outages (due to the fiber optic line).
Well, this asymmetric stuff almost starts sounding like the neocon justification for going in and blowing up every place that makes them.
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