Posted on 02/29/2024 8:28:43 AM PST by xoxox
How do we know the FReemasons on FR are telling the truth in their denial of them?
feel free to post em here.
Seems there are several brothers on this thread who would confirm whatever it is....
You, like the article, only make broad allusion something or other.
If you could be specific it would help.
Anybody could be lying to you about anything. You need to figure out what makes the most sense.
Do you personally know any Freemasons?
I heard the Catholic Exorcists say similar bad things about Martin Luther.
I’ve listened to many hours of their YouTube videos. They are mediocre at best.
Are you saying Freemasonry is just an offshoot of Christianity,as you understand it?
Or started in Christianity, at least in England re: the Church there?
Not trying to trick you or pin you down,btw..
He is not saying Masonry is an offshoot of Christianity.
The tenets of Freemasonry should reinforce whatever faith you ascribe to...but, it is not a religion...
I had two clients who were also close friends that were 33rd degree Masons. Both were devout Christians.
I don’t buy into the accusations.
But was a Christian church membership ever a requirement in England, for example?
I don’t know.
That’s why I asked metmom if she actually KNEW any Freemasons, on the principle of knowing a tree by its fruit.
But any unknown stranger can write sheer libel and people will fall for it, due to gullibility, prejudice, bigoted predisposition, etc.
PRAYER OF RELEASE FOR FREEMASONS AND THEIR DESCENDANTS
From: Unmasking Freemasonry: Removing the Hoodwink
by Dr. Selwin Stevens.
Boy, that guy has made a career out of damning just about everything but his own very narrow belief system, and seeing demons everywhere...
“Are you saying Freemasonry is just an offshoot of Christianity,as you understand it?
Or started in Christianity, at least in England re: the Church there?”
Neither. It started as an offshoot of medieval trade guilds - actual stonemasons - who began to admit non-stoneworkers when the great building period of cathedrals and castles wound down. They adapted actual stoneworking tools to teach moral and allegorical lessons instead of actual use for stone. The earliest known reference to “Freemasonry” is from the late 1200s in the Regus manuscript. In 1717, four already-existing lodges met in London to form a supervisory structure over themselves.
“But was a Christian church membership ever a requirement in England, for example?”
My understanding is that it was in the 1700s, at least in one of the two competing grand lodges, until they reconciled in the late 1700s. Part of that compromise was keeping the Christian symbolism but dropping requirements to be a Christian.
Thanks..
Interesting that a 1200s type secular work guild had a mild conflict some 500 years later, and had to compromise on some Christian symbolism to reconcile.
Thanks for the insight..
Read “Born in Blood”!
What if they’re right?
pls disregard #98 — I didn’t realize you were responding to another post.
The only way he’d be right is if he was writing for DC Comics.
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