First album I ever bought.
Posted on 02/28/2024 4:34:32 PM PST by DallasBiff
To ignore this warning is to usher in “the day the music” will die in the church. And if that happens, these prophetic lines from Don McLean’s iconic song will come true:
“And the three men I admire most The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost. They caught the last train for the coast. The day the music died.”
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I always thought the song was mocking Christian belief.
I wonder what Randall thinks Jesus meant when He said he didn’t come to bring peace but to divide? it’s in Luke, I think.
Jesus came to tell people they needed to repent and follow HIM.
Jesus didn’t say just be all nice to each other and stop saying things people don’t want to hear, etc.
I thought that quote from “American Pie” was a reference to the “God is dead” article from 1966.
The songs are also memory makers for each of us. For me, this was a great time in my young life. Listening to that song today takes me back in my head to a much different time. Great song. Great memories.
Here's what one site says about the meaning.......
The repeated phrase "the day the music died" refers to a plane crash in 1959 that killed early rock and roll stars Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper, and Ritchie Valens, ending the era of early rock and roll; this became the popular nickname for that crash. The theme of the song goes beyond mourning McLean's childhood music heroes, reflecting the deep cultural changes and profound disillusion and loss of innocence of his generation – the early rock and roll generation – that took place between the 1959 plane crash and either late 1969 or late 1970. The meaning of the other lyrics, which cryptically allude to many of the jarring events and social changes experienced during that period, has been debated for decades
I thought he might say the music died in church the day Charles Wesley went home to glory. That’s what I would have said, but he went down the path of a lame analogy.
If being 3000 years removed from the world of some biblical text means we cannot know the meaning of the Bible, then why bother with it? Well because we are not anywhere near that much in the dark since we have two millenia of Jewish and Christian exegesis and theology to help us out. If we make use of that, then we can have reasonable confidence we will get at least in the ballpark of what scripture means. At least. We are not in the position of teenagers not getting some pop culture references from fifty years ago, nor are we in the position of this fellow, whose method of exegesis apparently is to make it up as he goes along and oppose his opinion on scripture.
Impose, not oppose.
The three AM radio stations I tuned into back then wore that song out. I remember once spinning the knob away American Pie, to another, only to hear AP just starting. I spun over to the third which had a song ending, and in less than a minute on comes AP.
Digusted, I turned the radio off for a while.
I think the reference about the Trinity has to with the Jesus Movement, late 60’s, early 70’s where there was a very strong evangelistic Christian revival and rejection of the drugged out hippie, hedonistic,and paradoxically nihilistic dogma of west coast “hip” population.
The Jesus Movement became the Calvary Chapel, one of the most dynamic Protestant denominations, at least in California. The Rev. Jack Hibbs, pastor of the Calvary Chapel in Chino Hills is one of Southern California's top conservative leaders.
First album I ever bought.
But church music was revived in the nineteenth century by great antebellum hymnodists such as Lowell Mason ("Joy to the World, "Nearer, My God, to Thee") and postbellum hymnodists such as P. P. Bliss ("It Is Well with My Soul"), Fanny Crosby ("Blessed Assurance") and Lelia Morris ("Nearer, Still Nearer").
The last century even produced some great hymnodists such as Alfred Ackley ("He Lives"), Walter and Civilla Martin ("His Eye Is on the Sparrow") and Wendell Loveless & Avis Christensen ("Precious Hiding Place"). However, in my opinion, the last great hymn that was ever written was "Each Step I Take", composed in 1953. Hymn-writing has become a lost art.
Those were some good ones too. I was just being a wise guy by cutting things off at Wesley.
In the Methodist Church where I grew up, we used the official hymnal , but we also had a green book called “Tabernacle Hymns.”. I liked a lot of those.
“And the three men I admire most The Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost....”
The patriarchy throughout the ages has promulgated this hatred of females for long enough. God is God, and not “male”. He chose to represent Himself as a male in the form of Jesus Christ only because the world was so backwards back then. And the Holy Ghost? Heck if I’m going to let any “man” guide my inner heart! /s
Seriously though - that is when “the music died” at my former church when they changed the Hymns to be “non-sexist” or whatever they called it. I think they were still working on ordering new Bibles.
I always understood that line to be referring to JFK, RFK, and MLK’s assassinations.
Yep. I have terrific memories too. I was young and cute and wholesome and my boyfriend called me Miss American Pie. We weren’t worried about Satan, but didn’t want his Chevy in the levy.
Agree about the plane crash. The mind of an artist isn’t about logic or politics, at least not while practicing his art.
Don Mcclean is not a prophet, Evangelical visionary, neither is he some type of John of Patmos - although drugs may have been involved.
People are so wierd about stupid shite like this.
People ought to quit wasting their time on BS, the end time might be too close to be dwelling in the world of BS. Because we will not know the time or the hour, and neither will the Angels... that really is as uncryptic as you can get.
I’m a Methodist, but I’ve never heard of Tabernacle Hymns. The current hymnal that we are using has many good hymns, but it’s disappointing how many great Methodist hymns have been excluded. For example, there are none by Lelia Morris, who wrote both the lyrics and the music for hundreds of inspiring hymns. At the Trinity Methodist Church in McConnelsville, Ohio, where she was the music director around the beginning of the last century, they have pasted a number of hir hymns into the hymnal.
I thought the line about “the father, the son and the holy ghost” referred to the three entertainers who were killed in the plane crash. I am not certain which is which, although Jiles P. Richardson (the Big Bopper) could be the father because he was the only one of them who had kids, and Ritchie Valens could be the son because he was the youngest, which leaves Buddy Holly as the holy ghost.
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