2024 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX - LIVE THREAD

2/28/2024 | chode

[Chode]

Bahrain International Circuit

First Grand Prix

2004

Number of Laps

57

Circuit Length

5.412km

Race Distance

308.238 km

Lap Record

1:31.447 Pedro de la Rosa (2005)

NEED TO KNOW:

[BBB333]

There goes chode talking to himself again...

[Chode]

*

[Seaplaner]

Okay, and I’m going to pick Hamilton to whine.

[EEGator]

I see you’re as bold as I am…

[Chode]

29 Feb 02 Mar 2024 Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir

Race sponsor

• Race
• Practice 2
• Practice 1

	Pos	No	Driver	Car	Time	Gap	Laps
	1	44	Lewis Hamilton HAM	Mercedes	1:30.374		25
	2	63	George Russell RUS	Mercedes	1:30.580	+0.206s	23
	3	14	Fernando Alonso ALO	Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes	1:30.660	+0.286s	22
	4	55	Carlos Sainz SAI	Ferrari	1:30.769	+0.395s	25
	5	81	Oscar Piastri PIA	McLaren Mercedes	1:30.784	+0.410s	27
	6	1	Max Verstappen VER	Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT	1:30.851	+0.477s	25
	7	27	Nico Hulkenberg HUL	Haas Ferrari	1:30.884	+0.510s	23
	8	18	Lance Stroll STR	Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes	1:30.891	+0.517s	26
	9	16	Charles Leclerc LEC	Ferrari	1:31.113	+0.739s	26
	10	11	Sergio Perez PER	Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT	1:31.115	+0.741s	26
	11	23	Alexander Albon ALB	Williams Mercedes	1:31.333	+0.959s	26
	12	3	Daniel Ricciardo RIC	RB Honda RBPT	1:31.516	+1.142s	26
	13	2	Logan Sargeant SAR	Williams Mercedes	1:31.715	+1.341s	27
	14	20	Kevin Magnussen MAG	Haas Ferrari	1:31.764	+1.390s	27
	15	22	Yuki Tsunoda TSU	RB Honda RBPT	1:31.881	+1.507s	29
	16	10	Pierre Gasly GAS	Alpine Renault	1:31.951	+1.577s	25
	17	77	Valtteri Bottas BOT	Kick Sauber Ferrari	1:32.001	+1.627s	24
	18	31	Esteban Ocon OCO	Alpine Renault	1:32.027	+1.653s	25
	19	24	Zhou Guanyu ZHO	Kick Sauber Ferrari	1:32.048	+1.674s	28
	20	4	Lando Norris NOR	McLaren Mercedes	1:32.608	+2.234s	25

[Lockbox]

Some days there is more action off the track then on the track.

Speaking of that, who's serve is it in our game of Christian Horner ping pong game?

[Chode]

Horner six love...

[Lockbox]

:) sounds about right

[threefinger]

"trivia:what is the plank made of, and when did it change???

It's unspecified, or as termed in the TR, "free."

TR 3.5.9-h:

"The material of the plank is free, but it must be homogeneous with a specific gravity between 1.3 and 1.45"

Before the Senna crash it was made from a wood composite called "jabroc." Now the most common material is a glass-reinforced composited called "permaglass."

[Chode]

permaglass yup, winner...

[threefinger]

If you haven’t heard, Christian Horner was exonerated on all WOKE charges. It was just a woman butt-hurt that Horner wasn’t using her correct pronouns.

The accusation wouldn’t have got any traction except for Adrian Newey, who now is back with a vengance.

In a sane world, the Adrian Newey designed cars will always win because he’s the greatest aerodynamicist motor sport has ever seen. The rest of the teams knew they couldn’t catch up without somehow disrupting Team Red Bull so they came after team chief Horner on baseless and trumped-up charges of sexual misconduct. But they overlooked the first rule of regicide: If you shoot at the King, you must not miss.

The first bespoke race car Adrian Newey designed won the IMSA GTP class two years running. The season after his second championship he moved to CART and his car won the CART championship AND the Indy 500 two years running.

So after his first four years of designing race cars, his designs had won four league championships and two Indy 500 trophys. Not a bad start, huh?

Since he’s moved to F1, Newey’s cars have won 12 WCCs (for three different teams) and 13 WDCs (for seven different drivers). He designed the 1st, 2nd and 10th most dominant cars in F1 history (2023 Red Bull RB19, 1988 McLaren MP4/4, and the 2022 Red Bull RB18, respectively).

Despite “only” making the the 10th spot, the RB18 still was no slouch since it won the both the WDC AND the WCC, AND Red Bull’s #2 driver came third in the WDC tally.

When the 2014 rules changes came, Newey’s cars had won both the WDC and the WCC the previous four seasons running. Unfortunately, 2014’s absurd “Tokens” system for limiting development locked in the engine dominance Mercedes showed up with at Melbourne that spring and didn’t relinquish for seven seasons. But now that engine parity has been restored, god once again is in his heaven, and Red Bull is on a tear, courtesy of Adrian Newey.

Part of his brilliance is that he’s also the team’s Technical Director. So when powerplant argues with aerodynamics that he needs more airflow, Newey is the referee. And his intuition for understanding the relative importance of such things to race results is why Red Bull’s cars usually having a higher top speed AND more cornering grip AND better tire life AND lower fuel consumption than the competition.

The only hope for the rest of the field is if Newey retires or is struck by a meteorite.

Unfortunately, the racing still sucks and that’s not going to change until they get rid of about 2/3rd of the wings on the cars and go back to cornering speed being a function of tire adhesion and not aerodynamic downforce. They keep monkeying with the rules to try to reduce the cars’ sensitivity to turbulence when in the draft of a leading car, but that’s a fool’s errand because wing-generated lift is directly proportional to drag. Which means the more downforce the wings make, the harder it will be to overtake. If you don’t believe me, ask anybody who’s ever flown into the wake turbulence of a jumbo jet on take-off.

[Paal Gulli]

There’s a new round of “allegedly” improper emails “allegedly” from Chris Horner just “leaked” today.

The only possible reason these weren’t submitted to the investigating tribunal is that the charges are baseless yet they’re looking to drag out the “high-tech lynching” of Horner.

[Chode]

100%

[Chode]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/indy-500-tells-f1-theres-legally-only-one-greatest-spectacle-in-racing

This may bother some of you, but the greatest spectacle in racing isn’t the Formula 1 Monaco Grand Prix, NASCAR’s Daytona 500, or the 24 Hours of Le Mans. I’ve attended all of them, and the Indy 500 has them beat in terms of atmosphere and pure significance. (Le Mans is the only one that comes close.) But it doesn’t matter how I feel about it, because the “Greatest Spectacle in Racing” slogan is trademarked by the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and has been since 1986.

Despite this, F1, NASCAR, ESPN, and even LL Cool J (yes, really) have all been dropping those same words during recent live TV coverage, marketing material, and in the case of the famous rapper, the opening of the Miami F1 GP—which, by the way, is far from being the greatest spectacle in racing. Indianapolis Motor Speedway management isn’t happy about this, of course, and has had to remind them about their protected trademark.

[Yo-Yo]

Don't want to steal Chode's thunder, but qualifying is finished and pole isn't a shocker. What also isn't a shocker is that Hamilton's current and future teammates qualified 2-3, but Hambone qualified barely in the top 10.

I wonder if Ferrari is having second thoughts about signing the pork chop?

[Chode]

Thank You, but go ahead and post results anytime i'm late, i have no issues of who posts what, thx...

29 Feb 02 Mar 2024 Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir

Race sponsor

• Race
• Qualifying
• Practice 3
• Practice 2
• Practice 1

	Pos	No	Driver	Car	Q1	Q2	Q3	Laps
	1	1	Max Verstappen VER	Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT	1:30.031	1:29.374	1:29.179	17
	2	16	Charles Leclerc LEC	Ferrari	1:30.243	1:29.165	1:29.407	19
	3	63	George Russell RUS	Mercedes	1:30.350	1:29.922	1:29.485	17
	4	55	Carlos Sainz SAI	Ferrari	1:29.909	1:29.573	1:29.507	18
	5	11	Sergio Perez PER	Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT	1:30.221	1:29.932	1:29.537	17
	6	14	Fernando Alonso ALO	Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes	1:30.179	1:29.801	1:29.542	14
	7	4	Lando Norris NOR	McLaren Mercedes	1:30.143	1:29.941	1:29.614	15
	8	81	Oscar Piastri PIA	McLaren Mercedes	1:30.531	1:30.122	1:29.683	18
	9	44	Lewis Hamilton HAM	Mercedes	1:30.451	1:29.718	1:29.710	18
	10	27	Nico Hulkenberg HUL	Haas Ferrari	1:30.566	1:29.851	1:30.502	18
	11	22	Yuki Tsunoda TSU	RB Honda RBPT	1:30.481	1:30.129		12
	12	18	Lance Stroll STR	Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes	1:29.965	1:30.200		12
	13	23	Alexander Albon ALB	Williams Mercedes	1:30.397	1:30.221		12
	14	3	Daniel Ricciardo RIC	RB Honda RBPT	1:30.562	1:30.278		12
	15	20	Kevin Magnussen MAG	Haas Ferrari	1:30.646	1:30.529		12
	16	77	Valtteri Bottas BOT	Kick Sauber Ferrari	1:30.756			6
	17	24	Zhou Guanyu ZHO	Kick Sauber Ferrari	1:30.757			6
	18	2	Logan Sargeant SAR	Williams Mercedes	1:30.770			6
	19	31	Esteban Ocon OCO	Alpine Renault	1:30.793			9
	20	10	Pierre Gasly GAS	Alpine Renault	1:30.948			9

[Chode]

F^*< Lewis Hamilton

so much for his brilliant input into what was wrong wi the car...

[mabarker1]

I'm here Boss- barely.

The leftover from Thursday's Dental 🦷 Rodeo, removed Lower Left teeth to make way for Dentures. Almost time to take pain meds.

[Chode]

29 Feb 02 Mar 2024 Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir

Race sponsor

• Race
• Race result
• Starting grid
• Qualifying
• Practice 3
• Practice 2
• Practice 1

	Pos	No	Driver	Car	Q1	Q2	Q3	Laps
	1	1	Max Verstappen VER	Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT	1:30.031	1:29.374	1:29.179	17
	2	16	Charles Leclerc LEC	Ferrari	1:30.243	1:29.165	1:29.407	19
	3	63	George Russell RUS	Mercedes	1:30.350	1:29.922	1:29.485	17
	4	55	Carlos Sainz SAI	Ferrari	1:29.909	1:29.573	1:29.507	18
	5	11	Sergio Perez PER	Red Bull Racing Honda RBPT	1:30.221	1:29.932	1:29.537	17
	6	14	Fernando Alonso ALO	Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes	1:30.179	1:29.801	1:29.542	14
	7	4	Lando Norris NOR	McLaren Mercedes	1:30.143	1:29.941	1:29.614	15
	8	81	Oscar Piastri PIA	McLaren Mercedes	1:30.531	1:30.122	1:29.683	18
	9	44	Lewis Hamilton HAM	Mercedes	1:30.451	1:29.718	1:29.710	18
	10	27	Nico Hulkenberg HUL	Haas Ferrari	1:30.566	1:29.851	1:30.502	18
	11	22	Yuki Tsunoda TSU	RB Honda RBPT	1:30.481	1:30.129		12
	12	18	Lance Stroll STR	Aston Martin Aramco Mercedes	1:29.965	1:30.200		12
	13	23	Alexander Albon ALB	Williams Mercedes	1:30.397	1:30.221		12
	14	3	Daniel Ricciardo RIC	RB Honda RBPT	1:30.562	1:30.278		12
	15	20	Kevin Magnussen MAG	Haas Ferrari	1:30.646	1:30.529		12
	16	77	Valtteri Bottas BOT	Kick Sauber Ferrari	1:30.756			6
	17	24	Zhou Guanyu ZHO	Kick Sauber Ferrari	1:30.757			6
	18	2	Logan Sargeant SAR	Williams Mercedes	1:30.770			6
	19	31	Esteban Ocon OCO	Alpine Renault	1:30.793			9
	20	10	Pierre Gasly GAS	Alpine Renault	1:30.948			9

[Chode]

wish i could get them...