50 years after Tim Horton's deadly car crash, we clear up one lingering mystery

Toronto Star ^ | Feb 17 2024 | Edward Brown

[1Old Pro]

Thurman Munson, who died in a plane crash in 1979 while landing his private jet at the airport in Canton, Ohio

Quite a ride for a newer pilot to master. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to recognize the need for, and to take action to maintain, sufficient airspeed to prevent a stall into the ground during an attempted landing. The pilot also failed to recognize the need for timely and sufficient power application to prevent the stall during an approach conducted inadvertently without flaps extended.

Contributing to the pilot's inability to recognize the problem and to take proper action was his failure to use the appropriate checklist, and his nonstandard pattern procedures which resulted in an abnormal approach profile.

[SamAdams76]

I remember the time that during a game with the Rangers, most of the Bruins players jumped into the stands at Madison Square Garden to go after a fan that was harrassing them.

Those were the days!

You don't get that at a Billy Joel concert.

[dfwgator]

I make the case that football would be safer if they went back to leather helmets.

[dfwgator]

I remember the time that during a game with the Rangers, most of the Bruins players jumped into the stands at Madison Square Garden to go after a fan that was harrassing them.

The fans are standing up to them!
The security guards are standing up to them!
The peanut vendors are standing up to them!
And by golly, if I could be down there, I'd be standing up to them.

[\/\/ayne]

https://www.classicautomall.com/vehicles/1370/1973-de-tomaso-pantera

[rlmorel]

True...I seem to recall (and I could be mistaken) that Denis Potvin was one of the first stars I remember seeing wearing a helmet. (I thought it looked odd on him, as if it weren’t fitted correctly)

I liked watching Rick Middleton, with his long hair yet a bit balding on top, rushing down the ice with his hair following him!

Boy, hockey sure has gone through a transformation. I guess all sports have.

[rlmorel]

Yes.

Today, a stick to the head/helmet barely makes players blink, but back then, a stick up there was retaliated by dropping the gloves, and the Refs certainly took greater notice of it too.

[Alberta's Child]

All indications were that Munson had no business piloting a jet with so little flight time in one of them. He had just “graduated” from several smaller prop aircraft that he had owned previously.

[Alberta's Child]

Sticks to the head aren't really the problem anymore.

The speed of the players on skates and the velocity of the puck are the biggest reasons why helmets are necessary and why face protection will only increase over time.

The NHL couldn't possibly consider reducing the head/face protection requirements without first going back and mandating the use of wooden sticks.

[1Old Pro]

Munson had no business piloting a jet with so little flight time

Exactly

[OttawaFreeper]

I recall reading in Graig Nettles’ book BALLS about what happened and that in Graig’s words Thurman moved up to that type of plane too fast.

[Yo-Yo]

I make the case that football would be safer if they went back to leather helmets.

Most Rugby players would say you aren't wrong.

[fuzzylogic]

I didn’t realize the history of Tim Horton outside of coffee.

Thanks for sharing.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Old time hockey. Eddie Shore (The Clymer);

https://www.nhl.com/news/first-nhl-all-star-game-in-1934-played-to-benefit-ace-bailey-330470808

[rlmorel]

Oh, don’t get me wrong. I know they would never do it; it isn’t even a consideration.

Different world.

[rlmorel]

He only wore that helmet while recovering though, right?

Heh, Eddie Shore was indeed crusty, though! I don't remember where I heard it my memory told me it was Don Cherry, but he yelled at some player who was not skating the way he liked, and he screamed at him that he had to bend his knees and pretend he was like a bear taking a crap in the woods to skate correctly!

While looking for the source of that, I came across this short, which was a recreation of Eddie Shore teaching Don Cherry in practice how to skate!

He didn't say that here, but it was pretty hilarious...Eddie Shore apparently pinned the moniker of "Madagascar" on him...:)

It was really funny!

[MarDav]

I’m thinking Bill Goldsworthy wore one before him. Teddy Green, before that.

[rlmorel]

I could be wrong on this… But I think Teddy Green was an injury related helmet wearer, I don’t know about the other guy.

Denis Potvin was the first one I remember wearing it when he came into the league just as a matter, of course.

Of course, it’s been a long time… I’m not sure I trust my memory that well anymore… :-)

[hecticskeptic]

I didn’t realize the history of Tim Horton outside of coffee.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And if you are ever in Hamilton, ON, be sure to visit the Tim Hortons ‘museum’. This is the site of the first TH store built in 1964 but unfortunately, it has been renovated so many times it doesn’t look like what was originally there. It’s only about a mile from the big steel plant there for those who have that reason to travel to Hamilton on business.
https://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/46042

[fuzzylogic]

Thanks for the info. I’ll detour if I find myself on the way to Toronto. I’m in Michigan - every once in a while I find myself going into Canada in that direction.