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1 posted on 02/20/2024 8:38:43 PM PST by Red Badger
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General Motors had been fully committed to all-electric pickups, but problems towing and hauling heavy loads have made EV pickups less attractive to traditional truck buyers.

In other words, they suck and stink on ice.

2 posted on 02/20/2024 8:40:06 PM PST by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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"...plug-in hybrid versions of the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra are headed to market, in a hurry."

In a hurry to kiss Joe Biden's butt. NOT in a hurry to meet market demand.

"...problems towing and hauling the sort of weight levels traditional truck buyers expect have made EV pickup trucks of limited value to such consumers."

Stupid consumers are not listening to Uncle Joe & Cronies about the future.

3 posted on 02/20/2024 9:01:13 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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I see nothing here but paragraph after paragraph saying “We must kiss FJB’s ass and do it quickly,”


4 posted on 02/20/2024 9:02:18 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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Common sense ought to tell GM that they are powerless to stop people from buying what they really want. I hope they come to Trump for another bailout. Let them fly to DC in their finest biz jets because appearances won’t mean so much to Trump. Let a proper bankruptcy handle it.


6 posted on 02/21/2024 2:21:27 AM PST by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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The gubmint cheque cleared. Time to make some EV’s


7 posted on 02/21/2024 4:03:11 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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where’s the diesel-electric vehicles? A diesel powered generator maintaining a battery pack?

Like a locomotive

the only hybrid electric scheme that would seem to make any engineering and economic sense


8 posted on 02/21/2024 4:06:41 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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Motor Trend savages the F150 Lightning for towing a RV trailer

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-ford-f150-lightning-lariat-long-term-update-13-how-does-it-tow/?eml=organic:eml:brz:20240220:2022-ford-:article:print:owcst:mt&utm_source=braze&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=print

Plugin Hybrids do make some sense, but adding the EV motor output to the IC engine/transmission is complicated and expensive. There have been reports that the Chevy Volt II costs over $80K to build and they sold it for $35-42K.
And it had a continuously variable transmission, which limited the HP of the IC engine. Probably not suitable for a high-HP/torque truck.


9 posted on 02/21/2024 4:10:49 AM PST by Andy from Chapel Hill (Wind energy windmills remove the energy from the wind, which causes global warming.)
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If one is rich enough and stupid enough to want any kind of battery powered auto, the PHEV concept is the way to go. Something like the Toyota RAV4 PHEV is a good choice.

Unfortunately as soon as you purchase said vehicle you need to start saving for a new battery which will be needed within 5 years. And as you write that multi-thousand dollar check, think of all the third-world children that died digging the rare earth metals needed to produce that battery. Also unfortunately your auto insurance and maintenance costs are going to balloon. Add to that your trade-in value and/or resale value will drop faster than a comparable ICE vehicle.

But hey! you are saving the Erf.


10 posted on 02/21/2024 4:27:24 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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Zero emissions EV is pathetically untrue. The damage done to the environment in manufacturing a single EV is worse than any fossil fueled car could do in a lifetime.


11 posted on 02/21/2024 4:31:29 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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Does it come with a free diesel generator...?

🤣🤣🤣🤣


12 posted on 02/21/2024 4:35:39 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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Too late.


13 posted on 02/21/2024 6:16:07 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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The wife and I watched a Honda commercial last night for the new Honda Prologue. We both agreed it was a sharp-looking vehicle. Then the commercial guy said..."all electric".

No thanks...


14 posted on 02/21/2024 6:24:47 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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