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This 70-Year-Old Woman Might Lose Her $377,000 Home Over a Small Tax Debt
Reason ^ | 2.13.2024 | Grady J. Block

Posted on 02/13/2024 1:48:35 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: dfwgator
At least property taxes do go for things that are local, as opposed to Federal Taxes that go God knows where.

Yes, but we are taxed in so many ways. I would like to see just one form of tax, and all others abolished.

And yes, I hate paying the federal taxes the most because so much of it is spent on things I don't want funded.

41 posted on 02/13/2024 3:10:14 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
The difference with the homeowner is that someone is pushing her off the cliff.

 

"Pay the thousand bucks, or I'll push you off the cliff."

"All right. Sounds good. Go ahead."

Seriously? Is this the basis of which you want to argue on? Sheesh.

 

I pay a lot of theft, I don't know about you.

So now you equate payment of taxes as theft. Got it.


42 posted on 02/13/2024 3:10:26 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: DiogenesLamp

This selling someone’s house for less than 1% of the value is just evil.

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As we have already established, no one has taken anything, it’s just the motions to take. And I’m not sure that’s evil. It’s a great motivator to do the right thing.

And as we’ve also established, the woman could have avoided this possible theft in the first place. Just like I don’t drive on MLK Blvd, much less park there.


43 posted on 02/13/2024 3:16:21 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Well said.


44 posted on 02/13/2024 3:22:39 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: nickcarraway

I’m sure we will certainly be priced out of our 30plus yr home since we don’t have big fat govt pensions....perhaps we will have to divorce and only partner’s income will be counted to look “poor” enough...


45 posted on 02/13/2024 3:29:50 PM PST by cherry
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To: nickcarraway

Should never happen


46 posted on 02/13/2024 3:30:12 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: nickcarraway

Need more information re why she didn’t pay her taxes. What is her financial status re income, deductions, health conditions, etc.?

Perhaps the State could set up a fund from fines frpom civil & criminal cases to cover “needy persons taxes, etc.”.

I know that some cities/states have such a “rainy day fund”.

What does ARIZONA HAVE, IF AT ALL?


47 posted on 02/13/2024 3:58:43 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures a)
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To: nickcarraway

If this woman is not mentally handicapped or drugged up or similar, this is her fault. Thousands of properties a year get sold to people who paid the back taxes on them, it’s a very common no-risk investment. Most small investors make it because the govt pays a good interest rate, at least they did when I worked on tax valuation protesting. The vast majority of properties acquired this way are usually so worthless people just stop paying the taxes and wait or them to go away. I know a guy who jumped on 400 feet of frontage on the Blue River in Colorado for a few hundred bucks in back taxes. He got it. Went to see it, only way to access was from the river and the piece was about 4 feet wide and in the flood plain. It probably originated as a “vacancy”, an opportunity to hunt for cheap oil/gas rights, etc. Old ‘Land men’ will know what I’m talking about. All the good ones have been found by know I would think.


48 posted on 02/13/2024 4:05:02 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: nickcarraway

I was looking at a house (that I subsequently bought) and there was an abandoned property next door. The house was of no value and the property was a junk yard. I did some research and found out it was in tax foreclosure. I bought the acre of land for $762. I cleaned up the lot and last year, after finally getting the tax deed, had the house torn down and removed. I did a title search and there are no liens on the property. I found out later that the daughter of the woman who last owned the property (and died) let this property go over a $250 A YEAR property tax bill. That’s crazy.


49 posted on 02/13/2024 4:40:11 PM PST by suthener
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To: nickcarraway

This never should have been allowed to happen in the first place.


50 posted on 02/13/2024 4:50:07 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: nickcarraway

How then does the government entity then collect the taxes used to run the entity. Here is how it works in Alabama. If taxes are delinquint on the first of the year about 5 months later if still not paid the property goes to auction. for the price of the taxes due. The one that bids for the lowest interest on the taxes anywhere from 0% to 10% paid wins. The bidder then must maintain paying the taxes for 5 years after that time. If the taxes have not been redeamed plus the interest rate within that time, he then has the right to the property. I think that is fair to everyone.In other words, if you can’t afford the taxes, you have five years to sell the property and keep your equity.


51 posted on 02/13/2024 4:52:39 PM PST by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

What should the funding source be for police, fire fighting, local schools, garbage collection, maintenance of streets and roads, libraries etc.?


52 posted on 02/13/2024 4:57:32 PM PST by Reynoldo (BurnLootMurder)
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To: nickcarraway

Forgive tax debt, for the same reason they want to forgive college debt


53 posted on 02/13/2024 5:39:47 PM PST by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve The bad guys are willing to protest and riot while we email.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
So now you equate payment of taxes as theft. Got it.

It is an odd conservative who doesn't.

Have you never heard the phrase, "Taxation is theft"?

It's so popular it's actually a meme.

Do a search on "Taxes is theft meme". You will be astonished at how long this meme has been going on, and how much variety there is in it.

54 posted on 02/13/2024 7:20:12 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Responsibility2nd
And as we’ve also established, the woman could have avoided this possible theft in the first place.

I don't know if she can pay or not. If she can pay, she should probably do that to avoid all the hassle, but maybe she's at that age where she wants to make a stand on principle, because people have to live with themselves.

55 posted on 02/13/2024 7:22:08 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Mr. Lucky
Well said.

Well thank you. I generally speak from the heart.

56 posted on 02/13/2024 7:23:21 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Reynoldo
What should the funding source be for police, fire fighting, local schools, garbage collection, maintenance of streets and roads, libraries etc.?

I do not dispute that there must be taxes to support necessary functions of government, but we are taxed *WAY* beyond necessary functions of government.

God only asks 10%. Government should not ask for more than that.

And it shouldn't be a tax on property. It should only be taxes on income.

If a person chooses to grow their own food and live like a hermit without need for cash, then they should be allowed to do so without being evicted from their land.

Most will choose to be part of the community both socially and economically, but the land should remain the property of the owner until it is sold or passed to someone else.

57 posted on 02/13/2024 7:28:39 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: nickcarraway
Meanwhile in Portland...

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this guy figured it out.

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58 posted on 02/13/2024 8:23:07 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

>> And it shouldn’t be a tax on property. It should only be taxes on income. <<

I too am against property taxes, which thus require a person to be involved in acquisition of money.

However, I think that income taxes are wrong too. They are taxing people for doing something good, and those who do not work, or work under the table, are not “penalized.”

This is why I am for the Fair Tax, which is a federal sales tax that gives each person a “prebate” (advance refund) for the amount of taxes on what are considered necessities, and charges a 30% sales tax: note that they have figured out that initial prices will go down by eliminating the need for tax accountants and lawyers as a part of the sellers’ costs.

https://fairtax.org/about/how-fairtax-works


59 posted on 02/15/2024 4:52:25 AM PST by Chicory
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However, I think that income taxes are wrong too. They are taxing people for doing something good, and those who do not work, or work under the table, are not “penalized.”

I have objections to tolerating this state of affairs as well.

I believe in the Bible view that if you don't work, you shall not eat.

It is nonsense that this nation creates and funds so many parasites.

60 posted on 02/15/2024 10:13:52 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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