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To: discostu

Are you knit-picking on the existence of a holiday?

Of course “CDM” “existed”. The point is it was NOT a general “American thing” that was mentioned and pushed everywhere. I lived these decades, too.

Incidentally, few Marylanders know about “Defender’s Day”, Sept. 14. For the defense of Baltimore 1814. So yes, it exists, has existed for a century or more, but even locally few know it and it is not promoted except at Ft. McHenry. The point is not that it exists, but that anyone knows about it or cares. There are few I’m aware of anywhere else and I’m pretty familiar with AmRevWar as that is my passion. Probably LexConcord but never heard of any else and I belonged to NJ and PA preservation groups for it.

Again, the point is how much is it pushed. My experience is not much at all until 2000 or so, when the real push by illegals started and libs started feeling sorry for them. All those protests really started and Bush was about to cave then 9/11 put it off a while. Suddenly in my world, things start popping up all over.


164 posted on 02/12/2024 8:26:35 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I’m giving you facts that you are clearly missing.

But it WAS pushed in most of the country. Because there was money to be made. Like I pointed out until AB saw the chance to make money on it most MEXICANS never freaking heard of CDM. It is VERY MUCH an American thing. It’s basically as if Old Bay suddenly decided “Defender’s Day” was a great way to push seasoning. If they were successful in that a whole bunch of the country, and even probably other countries (CDM is actually kind of big in Ireland, cause drinking holidays are something they get along with), would suddenly know about this obscure battle. I watched a documentary series a while back about obscure holidays. It included a few random Civil War battle days. And some weird John Dillinger celebration in like Iceland or someplace extremely random like that.

Again the point is your experience is limited. Like it is for everybody. You only know what you ran into and as I’ve pointed out that’s largely random for all of us. Random chance caused me to to run into all these things in the 70s and 80s. Random chance caused you to not run into them until this century. But I know a lot of these things were quite big long before then. But we also know that just because something is quite big doesn’t mean everybody runs into it. Like my Usher example. The guy is a multiplatinum multigrammy performer and prior to yesterday I couldn’t have picked him out of a crowd or told you any of his songs. Or to bring it back to the thread Taylor Swift, I got no idea what any of her songs sound like.

Our lives are very random. What we’re exposed to is very random. A whole lot of stuff can go on with a large audience for decades before we find out about it. Doesn’t mean it’s new. Just unknown to us. A lot of Mexican stuff (and “Mexican” stuff) has been a big deal in America for a long time. 80s. 70s even. You just didn’t encounter it. Happens. Just because it’s finally crossing your path doesn’t mean it’s being pushed, or celebrating illegals or any of that. It just means you shifted over to a different section of the world.


165 posted on 02/12/2024 8:52:08 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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