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MFA statement on President Vladimir Putin’s 10 lies on Poland and Ukraine which were not rectified by Tucker Carlson (interview of 8 February 2024)
Ministry of Foreign Affairs Republic of Poland ^ | 2/9/2024 | Ministry of Foreign Affairs Republic of Poland

Posted on 02/10/2024 8:48:18 AM PST by marcusmaximus

1. Poland cooperated/collaborated with Hitler’s Germany.

Before World War II, Polish diplomacy tried to keep good neighbourly relations with Germany. Poland’s entering into any sort of military alliance with Hitler was out of question. In the period between the First and Second World Wars, Poland found itself between two aggressive neighbours: Germany and Russia, neither of which practically recognized Polish nation’s right to have an independent state. In 1934, in Berlin, the German–Polish declaration of non-aggression was signed, which was intended to guarantee the settling of disputes by peaceful means. Even before that, in 1932, a similar non-aggression pact was signed with the USSR.

2. Poles forced Hitler to start World War II against them. Why did Poland start the war on 1 September 1939? It was unwilling to cooperate. Hitler had nothing to do but start implementing his plans with Poland.

The Second Polish Republic rejected Hitler’s claims as well as his proposal to enter into a Polish-German alliance against the USSR. It was Hitler’s Germany and the Soviet authorities that signed an agreement against Poland on 23 August 1939 (so-called Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), which allowed Germany to assault Poland on 1 September 1939. Soviet Russia and Hitler’s Germany cooperated in concert until June 1941.

3. Poland fell prey to the policies it had pursued against Czechoslovakia, as under the well-known Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, part of that territory, including western Ukraine, was to be given to Russia.

Poland did not participate in, nor was it a party to, the Munich Agreement (of 30 September 1938), which in fact heavily limited the sovereignty of Czechoslovakia. Polish claims regarding the Trans-Olza were made after the signing of the Munich Agreement.

4. Thus Russia, which was then named the USSR, regained its historical lands.

The USSR incorporated Poland’s eastern territory as the result of armed aggression (17 September 1939) while Poland was fending off the German invasion. It stabbed the Polish state in the back. So-called people’s referenda held by the Soviets on Poland’s eastern borderlands were accompanied by terror and rigs. Lviv and the then provinces of Lviv and Stanisławów (today’s Western Ukraine) have never been a part of the Russian Empire. Nor was the Vilnius region a historical part of Russia.

5. Ukraine is in fact an artificial state created by Lenin and Stalin.

Today’s Ukraine emerged as a state thanks to Ukrainian national movement. The Bolsheviks did not establish it but merely conquered its part to set up one of the Soviet republics. Ukraine emerged at the will of Ukrainians themselves.

6. The left bank of the Dnieper, including Kyiv, is a historical Russian land.

Kyiv was the historical capital of Ruthenia, and Moscow did not exist at the time. In 1991, Ukraine became an independent state with internationally recognized borders.

7. The idea of Ukrainians as a separate nation emerged in Poland.

The process of self-defining of Ukrainians as a separate ethnic group was paralleled by similar processes in 19th century Europe. Nobody “invented” the Ukrainian nation.

8. NATO bases have been set up on the territory of Ukraine.

There are no NATO bases on the territory of Ukraine.

9. Two coups d’etat were committed in Ukraine to artificially break its ties with Russia.

During the Orange Revolution, the Ukrainian nation opposed to rigged elections. Holding a next round of voting allowed President Viktor Yushchenko to actually win the majority of votes. After the Revolution of Dignity, President Petro Poroshenko democratically won the presidential election.

10. In 2014, Moscow was forced to defend Crimea because it was in jeopardy.

There was no threat to Crimea in 2014. The Revolution of Dignity led to a peaceful change of power through democratic elections. Russia’s “little green men” appeared in Crimea to destabilise the situation in Ukraine.


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KEYWORDS: molotovribbentrop; poland; propaganda; putin; russia; sovietunion; triggered; tuckercarlson; ussr
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To: Vigilanteman

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Is there a good summary of the interview somewhere?
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Of course not. How can there be? All summaries would be filtered and edited by whoever does the summary.

What is out there is a transcript. It’s long. You can scroll through it.

We have reached a point in society where nothing from the media can be believed. This exercise in listening was the best journalism done in decades.

Carlson should this will all the other hated figures of the western world.

I have seen talk the past 48 hours demanding all such things have some stamped indicator in the upper right corner of the Q&A video saying that video should have the equivalent of a Surgeon General’s warning on it.

If you ask who decides this the reply will flow back and forth and eventually it reaches a particular conclusion — because people are not capable of forming their own opinions and they should be told what opinion to have.


21 posted on 02/10/2024 9:20:12 AM PST by Owen (.)
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To: Williams
Keep in mind WW2 started by both Nazi Germany and Russia invading Poland and splitting it between them!

If Tucker had showed up at his World History class in college, he would have known that.
22 posted on 02/10/2024 9:21:37 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: poinq

Oh the biolab horsecrap again.

Yeah and Poland started WW2!

Folks if you find yourself listening to insanity that Polish Nazis started WW2, you need to close your mouths and read some books.

Nazi Germany and Russia started WW2 with a simultaneous invasion of Poland in which they split it between them by agreement between Stalin and Hitler.

And yes Putin wants to invade Poland again which is why he’s justifying doing it in the 1940’s and connecting that to present day.

Wake up!


23 posted on 02/10/2024 9:23:14 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: marcusmaximus

Russia/Soviet Union has a long history of invading its neighbors.


24 posted on 02/10/2024 9:23:35 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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To: marcusmaximus

Floppiusmaximus...really, the same tired Tucker photos again?


25 posted on 02/10/2024 9:24:37 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: metmom

Putin needed to have his say and we needed to hear it so we know where he’s coming from. It helps explain a lot about why he does what he does.
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I consider Tucker’s approach to interviewing much more effective than turning the interview into a shouting match. Even Putin is entitled to his opinions. Who really knows what was going on in Hitler’s head before he entered Poland?


26 posted on 02/10/2024 9:26:47 AM PST by iontheball
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To: moovova

Tell Tucker to find some new facial expressions.


27 posted on 02/10/2024 9:29:04 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: Owen

The Wiki shows — at the Battle of Stalingrad —

400,000 German troops
220,000 Italians
200,000 Hungarians
143,000 Romanians

This is what defines Russian thinking. Germany did not invade Russia. Europe invaded Russia. Tracing that back to what happened in Poland (and Romania and Hungary) in terms of whatever semi-revisionist details the modern foreign ministries want to present does not change those numbers above. Those are not token forces. That is the European Army the Soviets faced.

Deep scars on the Russian psyche. Not much different from the scars on the British psyche from German bombing.


28 posted on 02/10/2024 9:30:06 AM PST by Owen (.)
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To: marcusmaximus

“The Revolution of Dignity led to a peaceful change of power through democratic elections.”

That’s a whopper, a true propaganda masterpiece. “Revolution of Dignity”.. LOL.


29 posted on 02/10/2024 9:42:06 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: marcusmaximus

30 posted on 02/10/2024 9:42:30 AM PST by kiryandil (Free Zaluzhny!)
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To: Owen

Keep slinging your bs is almost as good as Putin’s!

Evil mass murderers Hitler and Stalin (that’s Russia for you idiots) carved up Poland between them like a Thanksgiving Turkey.

Stalinist Russia deserved Everything it got and more.

“Europe” didn’t invade Russia you twit, Russia invaded Europe with Hitler
and the rest of Europe and America eventually saved Russia’s butt. As did the Russians themselves.

You’re an idiot and that’s why Putin can have some of the folks here for lunch.

Boo boo “Europe” invaded poor innocent mass murdering Stalin.

Just incredible.


31 posted on 02/10/2024 9:44:16 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: kiryandil

32 posted on 02/10/2024 9:44:38 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FreeReign
Nothing wrong with exposing Putin's lies. A lot of us here on FreeRepublic do that.

Putin knows the power of lies and propaganda, and he relies on uninformed people falling for his lies.

Tucker's interview with Putin is like Dr. Phil's interviews with KKK members. It gave us all a chance to see who they really are.

Putin showed himself to be a propagandist and a liar.

33 posted on 02/10/2024 9:45:54 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: poinq

Thanks for sharing Putin’s talking points.


34 posted on 02/10/2024 9:46:58 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Williams
You are correct. Putin likes to use the "they made me do it" talking point.

But if his lies were true then Putin isn't even in control of Russia's foreign policy and military, because he would just be a puppet of Joe Biden and NATO, doing what they "forced" him to do.

35 posted on 02/10/2024 9:49:56 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: dfwgator

36 posted on 02/10/2024 9:50:23 AM PST by kiryandil (Free Zaluzhny!)
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To: kiryandil

German Officers at May Day Parade 1941

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8phtzS2jA


37 posted on 02/10/2024 9:51:06 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: marcusmaximus

Thank you for posting. I was certain that Poland did none of what Putin said. But did not know enough detail to identify the reality.


38 posted on 02/10/2024 9:51:52 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Katyn Massacre

Bump


39 posted on 02/10/2024 9:53:34 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: marcusmaximus

And if we are talking about murdering Poles, never forget the Volyna massacres.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia


40 posted on 02/10/2024 9:54:09 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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