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‘Talkshow or a serious conversation?’ Tucker Carlson’s interview of Putin offered neither
Guardian UK ^ | 2/9/2024 | Adam Gabbatt

Posted on 02/09/2024 8:22:14 AM PST by marcusmaximus

“Are we having a talkshow or a serious conversation?” Vladimir Putin asked Tucker Carlson at the start of their interview on Thursday.

By the end of the two-hour conversation, the answer was clear: neither.

Instead, viewers got a lesson in Russian history, going all the way back to Prince Rurik – a Scandinavian who came and dished out a good kicking in the region in 862 – and taking in the reign of Yaroslav the Wise, the circa-1300 threat of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Russia going to war with Poland in the mid-1600s.

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“So that you don’t think that I’m inventing things, I’ll give you these documents,” Putin said early in the interview, after telling Carlson about how after Yaroslav the Wise died in 1054 the throne passed to Yaroslav’s brother, rather than his sons.

Putin beckoned to someone off camera and a lackey appeared with a binder containing letters written by Bohdan Khmelnytsky, who is not a household name in the US but is vaunted in Russia for telling the Poles to clear off in 1654.

The interview dragged on like this for about 40 minutes. It was not the veil-lifting insight into the region that Carlson had promised in a video message he released two days earlier.

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Unfortunately, as Putin’s sally through Russian history approached the modern era – “In the early 80s, I went on a road trip in a car from then Leningrad, across the Soviet Union through Kyiv,” he told Carlson at one point, as the interview threatened to become an episode of This Is Your Life

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1 posted on 02/09/2024 8:22:14 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Wonder how the Brits are responding to Putin’s remarks concerning PM Johnson’s actions concerning Ukraine?


2 posted on 02/09/2024 8:27:21 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: marcusmaximus

Yeah let’s go to the brainwashed leftist children at The Guardian and get their spin on it.


3 posted on 02/09/2024 8:27:40 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: marcusmaximus

It was interesting. Compare Putin to Bidone or the English chap or Macron


4 posted on 02/09/2024 8:27:44 AM PST by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: marcusmaximus
you sound Krazy


5 posted on 02/09/2024 8:28:15 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: marcusmaximus

Actually it was pretty insightful, I thought.

Fascinating how the propaganda is suddenly against free speech and are attempting to bury the story.

Maybe you can post another article about Putin’s restless leg!


6 posted on 02/09/2024 8:28:29 AM PST by Skywise
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To: marcusmaximus
When was the last time any journalist had a serious conversation with any world leader?
So the interview didn't meet whatever standards Adam just invented. Tough!

7 posted on 02/09/2024 8:29:47 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: marcusmaximus

I found it interesting because of the cultural divide. Russians and other Eastern Europeans are always anxious to explain history when discussing any conflict in their backyard. The successions of conflicts, peace treaties, and movements usually come into those discussions about why the aforementioned resulted in some modern conflict.

Most of Western Europe and North America avoid such historical preludes because it’s all assumed water under the bridge.

And it’s almost idiosyncratic how Putin likes to explain histories. It seems that any major speech of his that deals with national or international conflict begins with a long prelude about historical precedent.


8 posted on 02/09/2024 8:29:53 AM PST by struggle
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To: Skywise

I certainly would like more info about the eggs.


9 posted on 02/09/2024 8:30:05 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: Skywise
Viewers were, at least, getting a fresh insight into Putin’s personality, which on this evidence is basically that of a barroom bore who attends meetings at his local history club.
10 posted on 02/09/2024 8:30:08 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: struggle

Russia has an inferiority complex that goes back hundreds of years.


11 posted on 02/09/2024 8:31:59 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

>Viewers were, at least, getting a fresh insight into Putin’s personality, which on this evidence is basically that of a barroom bore who attends meetings at his local history club.

I guess the author is assuming viewers would prefer a doddering stutterer that sniffs young children?


12 posted on 02/09/2024 8:32:34 AM PST by struggle
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To: marcusmaximus

Floppusmaximus...

Looking forward to you rolling out those tired old Tucker pictures....


13 posted on 02/09/2024 8:32:34 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: marcusmaximus

If you understand history, you can understand current times. This is not a new idea.

Russian history back to the first millenium A.D. tells everything.

It’s when the Khazars first started causing problems, and when the Russians defeated them.

The cabal of today is descended from those Khazars, and the conflict with the Russians is what we’re seeing in Europe, particularly Ukraine.


14 posted on 02/09/2024 8:32:40 AM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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15 posted on 02/09/2024 8:32:54 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: gibsonguy

They’re just pissed because THEY didn’t get the interview


16 posted on 02/09/2024 8:32:55 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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PJW did a good job describing the MSM hypocrisy regarding the interview


17 posted on 02/09/2024 8:33:43 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: moovova

Tell Tucker to find some new facial expressions.


18 posted on 02/09/2024 8:34:06 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

>Russia has an inferiority complex that goes back hundreds of years.

I agree that, in many ways, Russia has played third fiddle to the US and Europe and they’re looking for revenge now that they have a chance to make a schism.


19 posted on 02/09/2024 8:34:17 AM PST by struggle
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To: marcusmaximus

Tucker Carlson’s interview certainly brought a lot of truth to the public’s view...unlike the propaganda this administration has been brainwashing people with.

Listen to his interview and review history:

Obsession with NATO expansion: a deeply ideological move inevitable in provoking conflicts
By James Smith
Published: Apr 02, 2022

“NATO and the EU’s attempts to subsequently encroach Russia’s own periphery would prove to be the decisive straws which “broke the camel’s back” and provoked conflict. It is a logical feature of international relations theory, as reiterated by leading scholar John Mearsheimer, that attempting to ensnare and encircle one country with a hostile military alliance is a straight route to conflict. The West makes no apology for it, believing that it is their ideological right and destiny to do so, as the “end of history” logic goes. Western expansion soon provoked in the Euromaidan crisis of 2013 in Ukraine, sparking a tidal wave of anti-Russian nationalism which then opened up a geopolitical struggle over the future of Ukraine. The West in turn failed to acknowledge how the ultra-nationalist assault on Russian identity and language in the country has also been humiliating to Moscow.

The US and its allies in their hubris refused to compromise, setting off a chain reaction of events leading to the present day. Russia’s reactions to this context are branded as aggression and zero-sum moral evil. However, they are in the strategic sense necessary for Moscow to safeguard its own national security and offset military and political domination by an adversarial military alliance.

This whole scenario was ultimately preventable. But Western governments and media continue to gravely mislead the public about its causes.”

Source:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1257438.shtml

And related:

Why is Ukraine the West’s Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer

29,665,594 views Sep 25, 2015 #UChicago
UnCommon Core: The Causes and Consequences of the Ukraine Crisis

John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, assesses the causes of the present Ukraine crisis, the best way to end it, and its consequences for all of the main actors. A key assumption is that in order to come up with the optimum plan for ending the crisis, it is essential to know what caused the crisis. Regarding the all-important question of causes, the key issue is whether Russia or the West bears primary responsibility.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4


20 posted on 02/09/2024 8:34:28 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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