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It's Confirmed! Laser Fusion Experiment Hit a Critical Milestone in Power Generation
Science Alert ^ | 06 February 2024 | CLARE WATSON

Posted on 02/07/2024 6:58:26 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: OHPatriot

Wait! Fusion power is now! I am waiting for the gov’t to mandate all fusion powered cars by 2035 - I am certain California will amp up the ante to 2030. Expect to replace all the effective measures put in place by green energy projects for the ultimate in green energy. What are they waiting for? Now we can protect all the birds we are chopping out of the air with turbine blades and frying mid-flight with solar farms. Perhaps it will reduce enough carbon emissions that farming will be allowed by then.


21 posted on 02/07/2024 7:49:12 AM PST by linedrive
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To: verum ago

“-powering the lasers”

Just one stage of the laser amplifier is less than 50% efficient. I would not be surprised that the input might be 10x the delivered energy.

“powering the confinement scheme”

Zero. Inertial confinement.


22 posted on 02/07/2024 7:52:43 AM PST by TexasGator
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Thanks Red Badger.


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Sun in a Bottle: The Strange History of Fusion and the Science of Wishful Thinking
Sun in a Bottle:
The Strange History
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23 posted on 02/07/2024 7:53:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Red Badger
"In December 2022, scientists at the US National Ignition Facility announced a historic milestone: for the first time, their laser-powered fusion reaction had 'broken even', producing more energy than it consumed."
24 posted on 02/07/2024 7:57:13 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Aevery_Freeman

“Thorium which has a benign decay series.”


Concerning stochastic radiation damages, thorium-232 is more radiotoxic than uranium if incorporating the same activities.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00204-023-03484-6


25 posted on 02/07/2024 8:03:22 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

Experiments run by Department of Defense aimed at proving, in a tangential way, the US knows how to make fusion bombs. The use of lasers in a batch process has no scalable means to usable electrical power, EVER.


26 posted on 02/07/2024 8:03:41 AM PST by stateofit
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To: stateofit

Philo Farnsworth invented the Farnsworth Fusor in the early 1960’s. It created fusion using Cathode Ray Tubes instead of lasers. Unfortunately, Farnsworth died before he came close to breakeven energy.


27 posted on 02/07/2024 8:20:28 AM PST by MMusson
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To: TexasGator
Just one stage of the laser amplifier is less than 50% efficient. I would not be surprised that the input might be 10x the delivered energy.

You don't seem to understand what "break even" means.

28 posted on 02/07/2024 8:22:55 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

“You don’t seem to understand what “break even” means.”

I understand what break even means. I don’t understand what you mean. Sarcasm?


29 posted on 02/07/2024 8:26:47 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

Anything is better than that Tokamak crappola. I still claim it was a parting gift from the USSR to spoil US research.
It has certainly been nothing more than a money dump.


30 posted on 02/07/2024 8:33:42 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: Red Badger

I wonder what the energy output ratio needs to be in order to engineer a self sustaining system. At 2:1 output to input it seems the scale would have to be impractically massive to cover all the inefficiencies in systems necessary to convert output heat to electricity and keep powering the Laser.


31 posted on 02/07/2024 8:59:20 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Red Badger

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32 posted on 02/07/2024 9:01:11 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Natural fusion in the heart of stars requires massive amounts of gravity.

The will not achieve the required energy output with lasers.

Magnetism, maybe, but not lasers............


33 posted on 02/07/2024 9:02:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal qs are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

My last job before I retired was with NIF


34 posted on 02/07/2024 9:54:40 AM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Nifster

Did they ever ignite?..............


35 posted on 02/07/2024 9:56:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal qs are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
"Luckily, we already have the renewable energy technologies to do that."

Ha, ha, ha. Great Joke. I wasn't aware that "Science Alert" was a humor magazine. It makes sense, considering some of their global warming stories.

36 posted on 02/07/2024 10:46:17 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The power of the press is not in what it includes, rather, it's in that which is omitted.)
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To: TexasGator
Forgot the word "more" before the word benign.

Apologies.

37 posted on 02/07/2024 11:34:50 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Wish I was rich enough to believe Leftist BS!)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

“Forgot the word “more” before the word benign.”

More correct is less benign.


38 posted on 02/07/2024 11:49:49 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

I did some digging and found the LLNL lasers are 1% efficient and require an entire day to cool after producing the 1 excess MJ. So really they put in 200 mega joules to get 3 out.I share your skepticism on viability as there are huge engineering challenges in laser efficiency but this is still a major hurdle overcome especially considering their yield increased from the first experiment.


39 posted on 02/07/2024 12:10:16 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Red Badger
Fusion Schmusion.

Warp Drive or bust.

40 posted on 02/07/2024 12:29:01 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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