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Carl Weathers (RIP) Wasn’t A Great Fighter, But He Was A Great Actor
The Federalist ^ | 02/05/2024 | Rich Cromwell

Posted on 02/05/2024 6:48:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Carl Weathers, who died at 76 last week, was an entertainer who moved from drama to action to comedy with ease.


In “Rocky III,” Carl Weathers’ Apollo Creed delivers one of the great lines in movie history, telling Sylvester Stallone’s Rocky, “You fight great, but I’m a great fighter.” It was a fitting bit of dialog for Weathers, a man who fought his way up from the “bowels” of New Orleans into a Hollywood career that spanned five decades, particularly given that he got his role in the first “Rocky” film by insulting Stallone’s acting.

Though Weathers, who passed away on Feb. 1, was always attracted to drama and acting, growing up in New Orleans didn’t afford him many opportunities to pursue those passions. Drama wasn’t seen as a manly pursuit for a young man, and he suffered many insults as a result. In the eighth grade, though, his desire for a girlfriend led him to another pursuit, one that would ultimately take him to California, where he would realize his dream of making it in Hollywood — football.

He wasn’t destined to be a star on the field, saying of himself that he wasn’t “dedicated enough to become a great player.” Nevertheless, he did make it to the NFL in 1971 after a successful college career, playing for the Oakland Raiders for one season. After the first game of his second season, Head Coach John Madden cut Weathers, telling him, “You’re just too sensitive.” From there he went to the Canadian Football League, where he would play for the BC Lions for 13 games before retiring from the sport in 1974.

At that point, it was off to the races for his true passion. Getting his start first with small roles before landing leading ones in blaxploitation films, it was the role of Apollo Creed that launched his career. After playing Creed in the breakout hit that was “Rocky,” Weathers would go on to act in films such as “Predator,” “Action Jackson,” “Happy Gilmore,” “Creed,” “Toy Story 4,” and “The Mandalorian.” His career was prolific, even if he never made it into elected office, unlike two of his co-stars.

It wasn’t that Weathers was serious about running for office. He was serious about entertaining, though, and in 2003, he appeared on “Saturday Night Live” to joke about the idea. The skit started with a voiceover: “Jesse Ventura. Arnold Swartzenegger. Mavericks. Americans. Governors. And stars of the movie ‘Predator.’”

After that intro, he delivered his monologue.

Hi, I’m Carl Weathers. I’m the black guy from “Predator.” This American classic has already provided two state governors and frankly, I’d like to be the third. I’m not fussy; I mean any state is fine. And while I’ve never voted personally, I was in the movie “Predator,” where I played the black guy. My compatriot and good friend Arnold Schwarzenegger said “Hasta La Vista” to politics as usual when he terminated Gray Davis. Well, I’d like to think that I’ve got the Apollo credentials to be your governor. Why? Because I am a man of action Jackson. And I was in “Predator.” Alright, I know what you’re thinking. Wasn’t Danny Glover the black guy from “Predator”? And shouldn’t he, therefore, be your governor? No. That was “Predator 2.” Doesn’t America deserve better than the star of “Predator 2”? The America I know and love won’t settle for less. But more importantly, do you remember that I was in “Predator”? Well, I was in “Predator.”

The skit ends with another voiceover: “Carl Weathers for Governor. He was the black guy in ‘Predator.’” It was hilarious and a reminder of a time when “SNL” was not only still occasionally funny, but that people didn’t use to take things so seriously when they were trying to make people laugh, though it’s probably for the best that Weathers didn’t go on to the governor’s mansion of any state.

Could he have been a great governor? Maybe. Schwarzenegger and Ventura’s records were mixed, though, and serving as governor would have distracted from his true passion. Had his “SNL” skit been taken seriously, he never would have appeared as a fictionalized version of himself on “Arrested Development.” The world is better off with that portrayal instead of whatever he would have come up with for a State of the State address, even if he’d mentioned there still being meat on the bone in discussing fiscal responsibility. Alas, the world will never know.

What we do know, however, is that Weathers did deliver on-screen in role after role throughout his career. Though athletics may have served as his springboard, it was his dedication to acting that lifted him to the heights of great entertainer, one who moved from drama to action to comedy with ease. In other words, despite his rough upbringing, he was never destined to be a great fighter, but he made it his destiny to become a great actor.


Richard Cromwell is a writer and senior contributor at The Federalist. He lives in Northwest Arkansas with his wife, three daughters, and two crazy dogs. Co-host of the podcast Coffee & Cochon, you can find him on Facebook and Twitter, though you should probably avoid using social media.


TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: carlweathers

1 posted on 02/05/2024 6:48:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess Bill Duke is blurple and not black…


2 posted on 02/05/2024 6:59:31 AM PST by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind
By all accounts, Carl Weathers was also a good person. His education at the predominantly black, all male St. Augustine Catholic High School in New Orleans was no doubt essential to his success.

Although little recognized now, in the era of segregation, Catholic schools were not segregated and had a genuine devotion by their lay and religious teachers and staff to the highest standards of character, conduct, and scholarship. Students at St. Augustine were referred to by the teachers and staff as "mister" as a sign of respect and seriousness of purpose -- a stark contrast to the disrespect engendered by segregation.

3 posted on 02/05/2024 7:11:17 AM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: SeekAndFind

I watched a movie he was in a few weeks ago called “Force 10 From Navarone”. Great movie. He was a main character along with Robert Shaw and Harrison Ford.


4 posted on 02/05/2024 7:22:02 AM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Check him in Arrested Development.

He kind of parodies himself.


5 posted on 02/05/2024 7:29:11 AM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure..)
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To: SeekAndFind

That may be the funniest SNL skit ever. Missed it.


6 posted on 02/05/2024 7:58:13 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The "Master or Disaster" will be missed. He channeled Ali's showmanship perfectly as Apollo Creed in Rocky.
7 posted on 02/05/2024 8:03:04 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

And The Russians killed him!


8 posted on 02/05/2024 8:04:57 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nolte — Movies We Love: Carl Weathers Is ‘Action Jackson’ (1988)


At the too-young age of 76, The Mighty Carl Weathers is dead. His legacy goes beyond an impressive screen career — Rocky I, II, III, IVDeath Hunt (1981), Predator (1987), and Happy Gilmore (1996). His legacy is the legacy all stars should strive for: audience goodwill. We loved the guy. We still love the guy, so this one hits harder than most.

Not to take anything away from Sylvester Stallone’s Oscar-nominated screenplay, but Weathers is a primary reason Rocky and Apollo Creed become iconic. In 1976, with only three small credits to his name, Carl Weathers was asked to be Muhammad Ali when Muhammad Ali was still Muhammad Ali — and he did it without coming close to an impersonation. When you think about that, it’s a truly remarkable accomplishment.

In wrestling parlance, Weathers was cast as “The Heel” and rose so far above that single dimension that as much as we needed Rocky Balboa to win, we didn’t boo or hiss Apollo Creed. Weathers delivered what all great actors deliver: something unspoken. For all his masculine bravado, condescending trash talk… With his pride always on the edge of being wounded and ego trips, you could see the man was trapped in a Machine that was always ready to eat him alive.

As much as we wanted Rocky to win, that didn’t mean we wanted to see Apollo lose.



9 posted on 02/05/2024 8:09:37 AM PST by Bratch
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To: SeekAndFind

Just currently seeing him in a commercial. I was glad to see he was still around and he looked and sounded GREAT!

Then I read THIS!

So sad, I hope he knew Jesus.


10 posted on 02/05/2024 8:49:18 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: SeekAndFind

God speed, CHUMP.

Great actor. Thinking back on great movies Predator has to be one of the manliest movies made. Unapologetic manliness and violence and sacrifice of manly men saving the girl, along with the world. Couldn’t make that today. Carl would have to replaced with Dylan Mulvaney.


11 posted on 02/05/2024 9:59:23 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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