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1 posted on 01/29/2024 6:12:06 AM PST by MtnClimber
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It should be an open-and-closed case, but the trial is in DC Superior Court so who knows what will happen.


2 posted on 01/29/2024 6:12:40 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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Fascinating that the trial has even got to this point. I think it’s Britain where, if you go to court in a civil case and lose, the defendant’s legal fees are passed to the plaintiff. Can you imagine what would happen to the US “court clog” if we had such a system?


4 posted on 01/29/2024 6:29:00 AM PST by econjack
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If B claims A lied about subject S1, but B fails to prove S1 is a lie, but A is found to have lied about subjects S2 and S3 and can reasonably be thought as a dishonest person, should B still be liable for defamation?

Many people still believe in the hockey stick, including me, but I personally doubt CO2 is the main cause, partially due to radiation absorption graphs and because CO2 does not appear to prevent temperatures from dropping rapidly in Florida after 3pm.


6 posted on 01/29/2024 6:36:31 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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Steyn as his own counsel should make for grand entertainment. A super smart guy with a wit second to none will destroy the pompous Mann and his phony hockey stick. As with Trump, it’s a shame both have to endure phony defamation suits brought by absolute zeros.


7 posted on 01/29/2024 6:43:28 AM PST by iontheball
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For those who never heard of the despicable filthy closet homosexual Graham Spanier, who ran Penn State university to the ground in the 15 years that he was there, check out this festival that he promoted and allowed to occur:

https://www.psucollegian.com/archives/article_57e3888e-a1ef-5664-b7e3-89613ac74b36.html

Graham Spanier and Michael “Piltdown” Mann should be sent to prison awaiting their execution by lethal injection. /spit


10 posted on 01/29/2024 6:54:59 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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A lot of people need defaming and the sooner that gets done the better.

There are two issues involved, the hockey stick graph and the importance of increasing CO2 levels. Late day temperature drops call in deep question the importance of CO2.

Mann is not just selling one theory, he is selling two, one of which is questioned by millions.

I won’t think badly of a pharmacist selling insulin for diabetes, but I will think ill of him for selling Ivermectin for Covid.


11 posted on 01/29/2024 6:57:37 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.”

Richard Feynman

genuine Nobel Prize winner


13 posted on 01/29/2024 7:00:17 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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Thanks for posting this. It’s hands down the best and most readable explanation of the case and its background. Prayers are up for Mark Steyn to endure and prevail. “The process is the punishment” is so true in his case.


14 posted on 01/29/2024 7:05:16 AM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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Wasn’t there a case involving the hockey stick, and the people that created the hockey stick graph refused to show data that they used to create it and therefore, lost the case or withdrew it?


15 posted on 01/29/2024 7:16:33 AM PST by Ferndina
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There is daily podcast of this trial done by an English Gent and an Irish Woman - both journalists and it’s fantastic!

It’s called:

Climate Change on Trial

They summarize every day and have actors read the transcripts for a reenactment of the days best bits.

I listen to it on Apple Podcasts...

Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/show/6jDpaNT18Yg0t8kIvfV0Du

Apple:

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/climate-change-on-trial/id1713827256Mr. Steyn comes out very well spoken and clever.


16 posted on 01/29/2024 7:19:09 AM PST by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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I remember the WikiLeaks revelations of the climate conspiracy academics like Mann tried to push. He from Penn State University, East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (where Phil Jones and three other major academics helped, and NASA’s James Hansen colluded on ways to stop publication of alternate climate views and to provide supporting ‘peer review’ for papers/articles of no scientific merit that held the same climate tenets as they. They also discussed Mann’s ‘trick’ of hiding unwanted data a lot.

They did it because ALL of them had heavy funding in grants and contracts from governments to produce climate warming data. In the end, the UK for instance, spent more money on getting to Wikileaks over the internal emails than its University head department on whether their work was actually credible.


19 posted on 01/29/2024 7:28:34 AM PST by Gaffer
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The PSU letter announcing the investigation into Mann’s work started with a declaration that Mann had already been cleared by the NAS investigation (Wegman Report), that in fact, had produced pages of problems with his work, and which members of the investigative group acknowledged that they only went as far as they could under the political circumstances. Keeping in mind that the NAS investigators were all of the AGW side of the argument.


25 posted on 01/29/2024 2:00:49 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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I find it odd that there is not more information online about Mark Steyn's excellent 2015 book on Michael Mann's climategate shenanigans, "A Disgrace to the Profession."

Here's the book's amazon.com link:

https://www.amazon.com/Disgrace-Profession34-Mark-Steyn-editor/dp/0986398330/

Highly recommended.

27 posted on 01/29/2024 2:07:53 PM PST by TChad
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