Posted on 01/27/2024 7:52:30 AM PST by knarf
I'm comin' up on Pennsylvania inspection and my cats are shot (already tried "guaranteed to pass" and it failed, etc.) and a certified mechanic diagnostic . . . the cats are dead.
I may as well get the 02 sensors as well.
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It should be illegal!
Thanx, I appreciate that reply.
An Expedition and an Explorer are a different class of vehicle than an Escape. Even during Ford’s bad years in the ‘70s, the trucks were well regarded. The Expedition is more truck than car. The Escape, regardless of its shape, not so much.
The Ford Windstar had a well-earned AWFUL reputation for going through transmissions. Its predecessor, the Ford Aerostar, was solid. I had two of them and the 4.0 litre engine was NEVER an issue, and I took them to well over 200,000, and the engines were still fine when I was done. The difference? The Aerostar was a RWD/AWD on a Ranger platform, and the Windstar was FWD . . . completely different types of vehicles.
(I had a Ford Taurus in the late 1980s that had a misspelling in the text on the plastic sheath for the owner’s manual.)
I had a similar problem when I installed a garbage disposal in my bathtub 🛁🛁🛁🛁.
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LOL 😅
I have a 2005 Escape with a manual transmission it is the absolute best car I have EVER owned!!!
Normally I would chide you for not being helpful.
But since you have a calico cat and a black cat, you’re forgiven . . .
The O2 sensors should jump around. Look up the specs for the upper and lower limits. That said, it wouldn’t hurt to swap out any O2 sensors that have over 100K.
Good for you! And thank goodness you’ve got the manual tranny! That seems to be the era of really good Ford products.
The engine block problem was introduced around 2012 when they decided to change a manufacturing for a coolant passage on the top of the block. They made a REALLY stupid design change to save a few pennies. The cracked block is a very widespread problem.
My son found a 2002 Mini Cooper for $3,500 that has a recently installed manual tranny, new brakes and new tires. It was being sold by an acquaintance in the shop next door to his. He snapped it up.
If you have one of the laser thermometers you can look at temperatures upstream and downstream and you should see a significant difference. Pulling a plug wire will increase the temperature for diagnostic purposes.
+1000, Avoid Chinese sensors. I don’t know where you are. Getting your pricing, but the sensors are about a hundred bucks each. Use OEM only, many of the Chinese ones are bad Out of the box and you will just have to go back and replace them anyway and get another test.
Check engine light on?
Do you have an OBD 2 reader?
Are you getting codes?
I cheated the Oxygen sensor by using a cheap spark plug extension bushing, keeping the Oxygen sensor bout a quarter inch a away from it’s original position.
Guy on you tube has a video on how to cheat it.
Search P0402 code cheat
Not just Ford Escapes- my 2015 Focus had the same problem. They built a LOT of those cars with bum transmissions. Luckily I had mine replaced for free by the dealership. They say that the newer ones don’t have that problem. I should’ve bought a Subaru.
Same goes for “second chance” (so-called) OEM on Amazon.
I’m not saying I do this, but they sell a spacer that goes between the downstream oxygen sensor and the pipe. I have yet to see one of these devices not turn the check engine light off.
Just saying.
If you want to fix it the right way and don’t expect it to last forever, Walker aftermarket converters are probably the only brand I would buy aftermarket. They come with a 5-year 50,000 mile warranty
Good point. OP’s ride needs a Toonce-up.
Your Pilot is almost 20 years old. How long do you plan to keep it? Just know if you spend a few thousand now you will spend a few more thousand dollars down the road. But that’s probably cheaper than car payments.
Fix it. But don’t buy OEM.
With just over 209k miles on my son’s ‘14 Expedition, I replaced the timing chains and phasers, and during the job inspected everything I could.
The right overhead cam was badly worn by a roller rocker with shot needle bearings. I’m told that’s the 5.4 Triton’s achilles heel. So the cam and ALL roller rockers were replaced.
Also replaced the oil pump with the recommended high output pump. When told before diving into the job to do that, I wonder why it would be easy to do. Well, the oil pump is right behind the timing chain sprocket on the crankshaft.
The engine work was made much easier as this was a salvage Expedition that needed the entire front clip replaced, including the radiators and condensor. After removing all the damaged parts, I was able to stand on the floor right in front of the engine, with nothing in the way, do the job.
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