Posted on 01/21/2024 6:31:20 PM PST by RandFan
Interesting DeSantis used a Churchill quote when quitting the presidential race.
Does anyone know the context for it? Was it the from the period commonly referred to as 'The Darkest Hour'?
This would be between the dates that France fell in 1940 and when Hitler swept through Europe and when US entered the war.
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Following the Fall of France in June 1940, and the evacuation of the British Army from Dunkirk, the British Empire was the only major power fighting against the Axis Powers in Europe. Through much of 1940, until victory in the Battle of Britain, the United Kingdom appeared to be under direct threat of invasion.
Although the British Empire was the only major power fighting the Germans and Italians during the period, it was not the only major power fighting the Axis as a whole. China had been engaging Imperial Japan since 1937, when the Japanese launched an all-out invasion. Some minor powers were also fighting the Germans and Italians: Greece fought the Axis powers from October 1940, when it defeated the Italian troops, to June 1941, when Crete surrendered to the Germans. Both Winston Churchill and Charles de Gaulle praised Greece's exceptional heroism at a point that many peoples were subjugated and the Axis seemed unbeatable.
The United States did not formally become involved in the war on the Allied side until after the attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese on 7 December 1941. However, President Franklin D. Roosevelt clearly sympathized with Britain and other opponents of Germany, and he did what he could to quietly assist them within the confines of existing U.S. law, which mandated strict official neutrality, and in the face of strong isolationist sentiment, both among the public and Congress, which wanted the U.S. to stay out of the European and Asian conflicts. At Roosevelt's urging, a "cash-and-carry" provision allowed presidential approval of weapons sales to the belligerent nations, on the condition that the recipients both arranged for the transport and paid immediately with cash. The argument was that would not draw the U.S. into the conflict and so the provision was inserted into the Neutrality Act of 1937, which had been passed when war clouds were looming over Europe, and the Sino-Japanese conflict was already underway, and after the provision officially lapsed in 1939, it was re-inserted into the follow-up Neutrality Act of 1939.
Roosevelt believed that "cash-and-carry" would aid France and Great Britain in the event of a war with Germany since they were the only countries that controlled the seas and could take advantage of the provision. The U.S. officially dropped its pretense of neutrality with the passage of the Lend-Lease Act in March 1941 and openly allowed arms sales to Britain, Free France, China and later, the Soviet Union and other Allied states.
Meatball is just being dramatic for attention
I saw the movie “The Darkest Hour” and was amazed. There were no sex scenes or nude scenes nor even any profanity—and the movie even featured a cat!
I have yet to see it but must have been a testing period when the Nazis looked unstoppable.
They had plans for the UK: “Operation Sea Lion”
Meatball uses FAKE Churchill quote
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12989819/Ron-DeSantis-fake-Winston-Churchill-quote.html
What a surprise 😏
“ Ron DeSantis ended his campaign to become the GOP’s presidential candidate by using a fake statement attributed to British wartime leader Winston Churchill.
The Florida Governor signed off his campaign with the quote: ‘Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts,’ underneath the video where he announced he was removing himself from the running.
But the motivational words, which he attributed to Churchill, where never actually used by the statesman and former UK Prime Minister, according to history experts”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12989819/Ron-DeSantis-fake-Winston-Churchill-quote.html
I knew it. Seemed a new one on me which is why I asked
Gary Oldman portrayed Churchill as a weak vacillating cuck who couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag. For an actor I usually admire that was an inexcusable low blow to a truly great man of history.
Turns out the quote he used was made up!
I posted the article to PWIN
Please vote it up maybe the mods will highlight it
https://patriots.win/p/17s5tfNsfx/
Indeed, that didn't quite seem to be the real Churchill. I haven't seen the latest Napoleon movie, but I read that he is portrayed similarly, as weak-willed and hen-pecked.
Perhaps Hollywood’s vile culture, with the revelations from Epstein and such coming out, feels it needs to tear down REAL men who stood up to REAL dangers in perilous times with that quaint concept of PATRIOTISM.
Another shame of great talents and a fortune mishandled on a grand scale. Like Gary Oldman in "Darkest Hour" we have a great actor in Joaquin Phoenix suspending disbelief as a failure at home while conquering the known world around him.
If I were paranoid and prone to wear aluminum foil hats I'd think Hollywood is purposely trying to tear down all the greatness of anyone who happened to be born white and male.
Nah...it's fine. Go away now.
(Thumbs up for Critical Drinker)
I heard the same thing. Which is why I passed on it. Maybe I'll watch a clip of the battle scenes on YouTube later. Should be 10-20 minutes of good material.
I'm skeptical of movies in general, especially in this woke/me too era we're in.
“Indeed, that didn’t quite seem to be the real Churchill. I haven’t seen the latest Napoleon movie, but I read that he is portrayed similarly, as weak-willed and hen-pecked.”
Turned the movie off when Churchill saw the picture of his secretary’s dead fiancé or whatever and that decided him to fight on. The whole reason that Parliament made Churchill PM was to fight harder.
“The Darkest Hour”
I bought it on DVD/BluRay, and it was simply amazing.
They took a bit of creative license (Churchill taking the Tube, for example), but Gary Oldham did a phenomenal job of portraying one of the greatest wartime leaders of the 20th century.
MikelTackNailer - I disagree with your view on how Churchill was portrayed. I didn’t see him as a “weak vacillating cuck” as you did, but will have to re-watch it to see why you think that.
I do agree with you on this, though “I’d think Hollywood is purposely trying to tear down all the greatness of anyone who happened to be born white and male.”. How many movies have replaced the “white male” hero with women, or black women, or even black men? Almost all of them. I have no problem with Denzel Washington becoming “The Equalizer”, because he’s a great actor - in almost any movie I’ve ever seen of his he’s fantastic. But, Queen Latifah as “The Equalizer”? Just doesn’t cut it for me. There are way too many to list, of course, so that was just one example.
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