Posted on 01/19/2024 1:05:22 PM PST by Red Badger
Always trial and error... Except, this time, it's magical!!!
Bitcoins are mined, not created.
I know we can’t store hydrogen, like we do hydrocarbons. There is no medium that we can use to hold hydrogen. If you were to fill up a hydrogen car and go on vacay, when you’d get back you’d have an empty car. Whereas, they probably rocket into space asap after fueling the tanks.
Hydrogen also makes metals brittle over time. You’d eventually end up with fuel tanks that you could tear apart with your bare hands.
It it says in this article that they don’t use hydrogen to lift rockets on the ground, but only to provide continuing thrust when it’s in the air. The reason being is because there is less thrust power in hydrogen than rocket propellant.
To me, it sounds like one of the drawbacks of hydrogen is that our cars might lack in thrust.
https://headedforspace.com/using-liquid-hydrogen-as-rocket-fuel/
Weird how this feature isn't advertised when folks are buying EVs, or this computer I'm typing on.
With all the outrage about "blood diamonds" why isn't Greta Scoldy Locks making a big stink about child slavery in lithium mines? Are the folks in Davos going to do something about it?
“I know we can’t store hydrogen, like we do hydrocarbons. There is no medium that we can use to hold hydrogen. If you were to fill up a hydrogen car and go on vacay, when you’d get back you’d have an empty car. Whereas, they probably rocket into space asap after fueling the tanks.
Hydrogen also makes metals brittle over time. You’d eventually end up with fuel tanks that you could tear apart with your bare hands.”
Tell that to the many auto makers selling hydrogen powered cars ...
How would me telling them change the laws of science and materials?
They were also selling EV’s. Should I also tell them that EV’s are a disaster?
It’s possible they are just developing the technology for tax credits, like they did with EV’s.
“How would me telling them change the laws of science and materials?”
Perhaps they know more than you?
“It’s possible they are just developing the technology for tax credits, “
So they developed tech that you said was impossible.
My point: How QUICK something is made to happen does NOT necessarily mean it is BETTER or MORE effective!
Initially.. all it really means is that it got DONE sooner rather than later.
I never said it was impossible. Anything is possible. If I have a million years, I could probably build a foot bridge to Mars. It doesn’t mean that it’s worth it.
It’s the same with hydrogen. It’s possible to have a hydrogen car. But is it economical? Is it worth having if I have to fill it up every three days and pay $15,000 to replace the fuel cell every 5 years? I’m not saying that literal. I’m just using that as an example of why it can work, but it’s not worth having.
Hydrogen is a potentially better option than lithium batteries. There is no pollution that I’m aware of and you fill up a tank with it, just like you do gasoline. However, it just may not be worth it economically at this time. As I pointed out, we can’t store hydrogen at the moment. You’re going to have leakage. You’re going to have to fill up more often than you do hydrocarbons.
Fuel cells are also more costly to maintain than your car engine.
Then there is the issue of northern climates in winter. Since the byproduct is water, what happens over the course of winter? Are we going to have cars jammed up with ice?
“I never said it was impossible.”
———You said it couldn’t be done-————
I know we can’t store hydrogen, like we do hydrocarbons. There is no medium that we can use to hold hydrogen. If you were to fill up a hydrogen car and go on vacay, when you’d get back you’d have an empty car. Whereas, they probably rocket into space asap after fueling the tanks.
Hydrogen also makes metals brittle over time. You’d eventually end up with fuel tanks that you could tear apart with your bare hands.
“Anyone know any books or papers on the pros and cons with respect to AI?”
You can see the awesome future of AI.
Google: badminton, robot
or
robot and MMA
“GAME OVER!”
https://www.newsweek.com/how-artificial-intelligence-used-discover-new-pharmaceutical-drugs-1853823
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/02/15/1067904/ai-automation-drug-development/
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-65709834
I was speaking economically, not technically. If people cant afford $6/gallon of gas, do you think they can afford $15/gallon of hydrogen and have to fill up more often?
I stand by those two statements. You cant store hydrogen and it makes metals brittle. You can verify that for yourself if you want.
“Anything is possible. If I have a million years, I could probably build a foot bridge to Mars.”
I don’t think you could.
“I was speaking economically, not technically.”
You were talking tech. Quit squirming.
Come back to me in a million years and we’ll see.
I never said it can’t be done technically. I said you can’t store it, because you can’t store it. I also said that it makes metals brittle, because it makes metals brittle. I also said it was more expensive than hydrocarbons.
These are fundamentally economical arguements, because you’ll have to fill up more often. You may have to replace the metal parts of your fuel system more often. It costs more to use than gasoline.
But I never said it cannot be done technically. It just may not be possible to do it economically. If you read my posts on this, I said that hydrogen is a better alternative than lithium because it acts similarly to hydrocarbons and there is no pollution.
It’s just expensive to do, that’s all.
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