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Posted on 01/19/2024 9:19:40 AM PST by ganeemead

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To: ganeemead

Use 0W-20, if it asks for it. It should be a good synthetic oil and, if now having some miles on it, use a High Mileage formulation, like the Valvoline Full Synthetic 0W-20 High Mileage oil from Walmart. Use an excellent oil filter, like the Fram Ultra Synthetic filter, also from Walmart.

Get a good air filter, too, and use a magnetic drain plug that is removed and cleaned, every oil change.

This will keep your car from losing oil between oil changes and help it start on cold winter days.


41 posted on 01/19/2024 11:02:30 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I think the most IMPORTANT thing a car owner can do when it comes to very cold weather is to reserve enough time in your morning startup routine to let the engine (and oil) to come up to temperature. Don’t REV the engine to speed the warming up and all that. Let the engine idle for several minutes.

My truck has an “air recycle” switch that times off after about 5 minutes and that’s what I use as a guide on startup. I don’t REV or move until that cycles off.


42 posted on 01/19/2024 11:02:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: ganeemead

My cars take 10 quarts each of a certain type of full synthetic Mobil One for emissions


43 posted on 01/19/2024 11:05:59 AM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: Freedom4US
>Old habits die hard. Years ago, a V8 was pretty much ready for overhaul at around 75k miles. The machining tolerances were not especially tight.

Tolerances didn't change much. The big change came with the roller cam in the early 80's. My 84 suburban went 230,000 miles before I got rid of it. Every V8 I rebuilt was from the cam shaft failure. My old Chevy (see my Home page) has 74,000 miles on it. Its getting close to rebuild time.
44 posted on 01/19/2024 11:21:42 AM PST by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: Senormechanico

Either/or


45 posted on 01/19/2024 11:29:46 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

“It’s interesting, in the non-turbo version of my car, 0W-20 is recommended, while 0W-30 is the recommended weight in the turbo version.”

The oil runs at a hotter temp in the Turbo versions and gets thinner. The turbo heats the oil more than it regularly would because oil flow is how they cool the turbo bearings. Same heat issue is true in the desert southwest with extremely hot temps.

So your example says it all. Extreme heat (severe duty) conditions actually do require a little heavier oil. Such as turbo models and very hot environmental conditions. I don’t care what the manufacturer says...


46 posted on 01/19/2024 11:31:12 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“I don’t believe for a minute that low viscosity 0-20W oil protects your engine better than 10-30W. I think it may be worse.

I think the use of 0-20W has ONLY to do with maximizing fuel economy to meet the ridiculous CAFE standards currently in place. If it causes your car to fail 20,000 miles sooner than 10-30W, than “oh well”!

It is all about meeting CAFE standards, not about superior protection. I think 0-20W does better during warmup but when you drive 2 hours straight, I think the viscosity is TOO low.

I don’t trust anybody anymore. When the experts say low viscosity oil is superior, you have to ask, superior in what regard. I am very skeptical about the protection 0-20W oil provides. I am convinced it is only about maximizing MPGs for EPA milleage tests.”

Absolutely. I have been a shop owner and in the repair business all my life and I absolutely agree 100%. It depends on conditions such as warmer summer months and/or hot desert environments.

The “one size fit’s all” just does not actually apply as they claim.


47 posted on 01/19/2024 11:35:49 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Freedom4US

“no spark plug changes required every 10k miles”

A lot of folks here either forgot or never knew the thrill of nursing a car to 100,000 miles and watching the odo rollover to all zeros.


48 posted on 01/19/2024 11:52:36 AM PST by beef (The pendulum will not swing back. It will snap back. Hard.)
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To: right way right

Less politely, RTFM.


49 posted on 01/19/2024 12:13:49 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Boomer

“I’m sure you will get a lot of snide comments but the straight answer is to use what the manufacturer recommends. In the case of the 0w-20, the tolerances in the engine are really tight so using a thicker oil may not allow some parts to be lubed the way they should.”

THIS.


50 posted on 01/19/2024 12:17:55 PM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: Openurmind

The turbo heats the oil more than it regularly would because oil flow is how they cool the turbo bearings.

Another good reason not to immediately shut down a turbosupercharged engine when it has been runnin hard. Give it a few minutes at idle to let the turbine and its bearings cool down.


51 posted on 01/19/2024 12:18:14 PM PST by FrozenAssets (You don't have to be crazy to live here, but it helps)
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To: ganeemead

I got 250000 miles on my Toyota Truck using 0-20. It was still running like new when I sold it.


52 posted on 01/19/2024 12:21:07 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Do the math. L+G+B+T+Q = 666)
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To: ganeemead

higher viscosity will prolly strain the pump etc. to some degree...


53 posted on 01/19/2024 12:57:48 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Yes, and when people look at the manual they can also see maintenance recommendations such as fluid changes in drive-train components, engine coolant etc.
Those things really do matter.
If one sees it they can believe their service adviser when they recommend such things…Instead, they just think that they are trying to rip them off.
54 posted on 01/19/2024 2:19:36 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Yes, and when people look at the manual they can also see maintenance recommendations such as fluid changes in drive-train components, engine coolant etc.
Those things really do matter.
If one sees it they can believe their service adviser when they recommend such things…Instead, they just think that they are trying to rip them off.
55 posted on 01/19/2024 2:23:08 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: right way right

Oh well, I guess it bears repeating.


56 posted on 01/19/2024 2:23:52 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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To: ganeemead

How do you think molasses would work instead? Coal tar?

Use the viscosity for which the engine was designed. There might be a slight modification for time of year, but don’t just assume that either.


57 posted on 01/19/2024 2:31:28 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: ConservativeMind

Word of wisdom. Don’t use Fram anything. They are the sorriest filter you can buy.


58 posted on 01/19/2024 2:55:03 PM PST by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: showme_the_Glory

Yes, it’s my wife’s. But I’m not too proud to drive it around. It’s been a great van.


59 posted on 01/19/2024 6:05:40 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: FrozenAssets

“Another good reason not to immediately shut down a turbosupercharged engine when it has been runnin hard. Give it a few minutes at idle to let the turbine and its bearings cool down.”

Absolutely. Especially important on diesel engines because of the higher temps the turbo operates at. Under load up a hill they can get bright orange. The exhaust temps on diesels are much higher than gasoline engines. That turbo is basically a fan forced forge on that cast iron case and bearings on the exhaust side. And the only thing between it and failure is a couple degrees the oil flow prevents as a cooling agent.

But this habit should absolutely be practiced with both.

Sounds like your are knowledgeable so here is one for you related to patience and proper habits. White steam automobile company had flash boilers that could make steam within 5 minutes. And they had a closed system that had a condenser so that very little water was lost making and using steam. Steam is still to this day more efficient than Gas or diesel. But because no one had the patience to warm up a car for 5 minutes (or let a turbo cool down at shut down) the gasoline engine won the day.


60 posted on 01/19/2024 6:23:24 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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