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You'll have try to ignore the onvious bias in the story.

The overreach of the fed gov on this is completely obscene.

1 posted on 01/17/2024 2:08:50 PM PST by V_TWIN
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The US gov is claiming because the law states they may collect "fees," the fisherman must pay the salaries of the observers at $700/day. According to the plaintiff's attorneys, that would add up to about 20% of the total value of the catch, effectively putting them out of business.

Because you see, being populated with eco-kooks, that's what the gov is really trying to use it's "interpretative deference" to do: stop all fishing.

So called "Chevron deference" just provides cover for government lawlessness.

2 posted on 01/17/2024 2:15:27 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Last time commercial fishermen took the US to court, we lost badly. So what looks like a slam dunk, may not be.


3 posted on 01/17/2024 2:17:14 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Bkmk


4 posted on 01/17/2024 2:17:53 PM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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Elections have consequences.

Pray for these fishermen, and for their attorneys.


5 posted on 01/17/2024 2:21:59 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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“You’ll have try to ignore the onvious bias in the story.
The overreach of the fed gov on this is completely obscene”

Not surprised, THIS is what really scares them.


8 posted on 01/17/2024 2:25:48 PM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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I believe this is the transcript for the Oral Arguments before the court for this case. Of course, the actual case name was NOT mentioned in the excerpted article. https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2023/22-451_7l48.pdf
10 posted on 01/17/2024 2:34:55 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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The 1984 decision states that when laws aren’t crystal clear, federal agencies should be allowed to fill in the details as long as they come up with a reasonable interpretation. “Judges are not experts in the field, and are not part of either political branch of government,” Justice John Paul Stevens wrote for the court in 1984, explaining why they should play a limited role.

WTAF? If a law isn't clear, it's the job of judges to clarify it, by hearing whatever facts and expert testimony they need to accomplish that. That's what they get paid for, and paid a lot.

If they can't or won't do this, the law in question should be eliminated, and the legislature can try again. But allowing federal agencies to essentially write the laws governing themselves is completely wrong.

12 posted on 01/17/2024 2:37:19 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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https://www.npr.org/2024/01/17/1225142515/supreme-court-to-hear-arguments-in-a-case-that-could-weaken-federal-rule-making

It certainly does seem excessive.

The fish are going to get paid for. The buyers are going to make sure they get what they pay for. The IRS is going to check that Uncle Sam gets his cut.


14 posted on 01/17/2024 2:47:16 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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https://www.npr.org/2024/01/17/1225142515/supreme-court-to-hear-arguments-in-a-case-that-could-weaken-federal-rule-making

It certainly does seem excessive.

The fish are going to get paid for. The buyers are going to make sure they get what they pay for. The IRS is going to check that Uncle Sam gets his cut.


15 posted on 01/17/2024 2:47:16 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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I think states should require medical doctor observers to watch over every abortion.

These observers might get paid $700/day and their fees passed on.


17 posted on 01/17/2024 2:59:23 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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The Chevron decision upends the entire constitutional order. Administrative agencies, which no one elected, and are nearly impossible to remove from power, decide immense questions without any oversight.

It seems unlikely the court would have taken this case, only to reinforce what already exists.

You cannot have separation of powers when executive agencies can make up law as they wish, when they wish.

They are not the legislature,and they are not the judiciary.

Chevron gives them almost unlimited power.

18 posted on 01/17/2024 3:12:36 PM PST by marktwain
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It’s curious that this case comes up at the same time the Davos idiots are proclaiming that farming and fishing are “eco-crimes”.


19 posted on 01/17/2024 3:15:50 PM PST by workerbee (==)
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A couple of decades ago a senator asked the DOJ for a list of regulations and rules at all levels that required a prison sentence. Not laws passed by a government. But rules or regulations that were put into place by agencies. The DOJ said that there were perhaps thousands of regulations at all levels of government that required a prison sentence and that listing them would be an impossible task. Catch too many of the wrong fish, or too small, or in the wrong season and you could be in for a prison sentence. I saw a tortoise laying eggs in my driveway. I contacted my workout buddy, a federal official with a license to handle various endangered species. He told me how to dig them up, how to mark them, and how to move them. I did as he instructed and called a nature museum and asked if they wanted the eggs. The director said, “I can tell you; you don’t have tortoise eggs. I know this, because if you did, I’d be required by law to report you and you’d face up to a year jail and a fifteen thousand dollar fine. It’s the same fine if you just pick one up and move it off the road, by-the-way.” When I asked him what I should do with the totally not tortoise eggs he said, “I’d make an omelet.”

After some conversation, he told me when exactly to bring them to the front desk, when it would be manned by someone who wouldn’t know an egg from a tennis ball, which I did.


26 posted on 01/17/2024 5:02:25 PM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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