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Don’t Underestimate China
American Thinker ^ | 29 Dec, 2023 | Stephan Helgesen

Posted on 12/29/2023 6:53:33 AM PST by MtnClimber

The USA’s security-compromising dependence on China is the great unsung issue of the 2024 election.

No one would argue that one of our most complex trading relationships — and a totally one-sided one at that — is our relationship with China. To get a first-person feel for that relationship, I decided to get a reality check with a pre-Christmas trip to China’s principal American retail outlet, Walmart.

In the mid-eighties, I helped American companies set up offshore garment production in the Caribbean Basin under the Caribbean Basin Initiative after the invasion of Grenada. I knew I’d find Chinese-made products there, but I wasn’t prepared for the sheer number of them. Looking only for well known name brands, I charted a course to the housewares, sporting goods, and hardware departments and made these observations: Oneida silverware (Indonesia), Mr. Coffee coffeemakers and Hamilton Beach toasters (China), Master Lock padlocks (assembled in Mexico), GE room air-conditioner, Stanley tools, Pennzoil multi-use pumps, Coleman tents, Daisy air rifles, and Head tennis rackets (China). Most clothing was made outside the U.S., like Wrangler cargo pants (Nicaragua), but the prize of the day went to those famous Danish Lego toys, made in Denmark, Hungary, Mexico, and China.

I could have stayed for hours and ticked off product after product that bore a “Made Elsewhere” label, but it got too depressing. Nearly the entire assortment of the electronic goods we buy for our homes are manufactured or assembled overseas — products like computers and peripherals, stereo equipment, wide-screen televisions, and mobile phones — most from Southeast Asia and China. It’s also astonishing how many Chinese-made products populate the lower value end of the price spectrum. They range from plastic extruded items to drop-forged tools, all made at factories employing low- or no-skilled labor.

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1 posted on 12/29/2023 6:53:33 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

We have regulated ourselves out of being competitive. The EPA, OSHA and so many others have done this to the USA and now we are dependent to countries that are not our friends.


2 posted on 12/29/2023 6:54:35 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Not worried where toasters are made, but I am worried where pharmaceuticals are made and minerals and metals are mined


3 posted on 12/29/2023 6:58:38 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: MtnClimber

That’s why China and other countries routinely “donate” to the leftist groups that push these regulations onto us that reduce manufacturing here.


4 posted on 12/29/2023 6:59:23 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: MtnClimber
We have regulated ourselves out of being competitive. The EPA, OSHA and so many others have done this to the USA and now we are dependent to countries that are not our friends.

I'll grant that overregulation is part of the problem, but our mistake isn't regulations that protect workers or the environment. Our mistake is that we didn't require our trading partners to implement similar regulations as part of the trade deals, which would have levelled the playing field.

Forcing American workers to compete with foreign slave labor is not fair trade, but it's what our trade agreements allowed. Ironically, the party that calls itself the party that freed the slaves largely supported these trade deals, although Clinton, Gore, and Biden also supported them.

And here's an example of what happened when one company with government support outsourced to avoid US regulations and restrictions in 2015. How much money did that save us?

5 posted on 12/29/2023 7:20:20 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: 1Old Pro

China’s industrial capacity dwarfs out of the United States now. America has devolved into a banking cartel of perverts.


6 posted on 12/29/2023 7:21:05 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: MtnClimber

Wait a minute, if the Chinese are selling us all these goods, what are they getting in return?


7 posted on 12/29/2023 7:51:00 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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“...what are they (China) getting in return?”
Governance of the UnitedStates

-fJRoberts-


8 posted on 12/29/2023 9:00:13 AM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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To: A strike

Considering the insane asylum we’ve become, when the Chinese come in and take over, bad as they are it will be an improvement!


9 posted on 12/29/2023 9:46:09 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: 1Old Pro; All

Not worried where toasters are made, but I am worried where pharmaceuticals are made and minerals and metals are mined


How about where defence contractor parts are made.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/19/raytheon-china-greg-hayes-decoupling/


10 posted on 12/29/2023 10:21:33 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

that too


11 posted on 12/29/2023 10:23:13 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: MtnClimber

Don’t overestimate them either, since they have a multi-billion dollar propaganda campaign to convince everyone of their superiority in evrey field.


12 posted on 12/29/2023 11:17:36 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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