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Update from Ukraine | Putin is Burning his army in Krynky Village | Crazy Ruzzian Losses
Youtube.com ^ | 12-24-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 12/24/2023 11:44:33 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: Apparatchik

You or any zeeper saying that what I have to say is “foolishness” means I scored a direct hit.

I’ll post what I choose to post and where I choose to post on here. I have my reasons for not wanting to interact with certain people and they’re no concern of yours.

Read what the owner of the site has to say about that and zip it.


81 posted on 12/26/2023 3:42:54 PM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated.)
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To: USA-FRANCE
It's our bullying and NATO's that have turned almost the entire world against us and most of Europe. Thus, rise of BRICS and the push for de-dollarization, which could have catastrophic consequences for US citizens.

You want to fight the Russians, get your ass to the frontlines. The majority in the US, especially among Republicans are conservatives, are sick of wasting money and military assets fighting a proxy war that the elite only wanted to fight because Ukraine was being used to launder money.

83 posted on 12/26/2023 4:16:26 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan; UMCRevMom@aol.com; MeganC; gleeaikin

You said:
“It’s our bullying and NATO’s that have turned almost the entire world against us and most of Europe.”

My answer:
By saying “our” do you refer to America or Russia?” It’s unclear...
If you meant America, obviously you would be profoundly mistaken.
We live in the 21st century, America does NOT annex countries. Period.

Russia on the other hand is annexing sovereign nations non-stop.
In recent times Russia annexed Moldova, Georgia, Crimea, Donbas, and is now attempting to annex all of Ukraine. And Russia is now threatening to take the Baltic NATO States and Finland... and heck a high ranked Russian politician even wants to take back Alaska for God’s sake...

But you say it’s America the bully?? You are joking right?
What do you call Russia’s annexations of the countries and regions I mentioned above? An act of kindness?
What about the hundreds of thousands deaths Russia has caused in annexing those places? Is it an “act of kindness” according to you??

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

You said:
“Thus, rise of BRICS...”

My answer:
Thus, the rise and expansion of NATO : Finland and Sweden.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

You said:
“You want to fight the Russians, get your ass to the frontlines.”

My answer:
No, the West has a policy of no boots on the ground in Ukraine.
Thus, how on earth could I get my own boots in Ukraine? I am a supporter of Western policies. Remember?

However, the fact you seem to be avoiding is that Russia HAS BOOTS ON THE GROUND in Ukraine! 400.000 Russian soldiers! You don’t complain about that... Why?

But you endlessly complain about the West, while knowing full well THEY have ZERO boots on the ground in Ukraine. You are illogical.

Thus, here is my suggestion to you:
1. Complain more about the AGGRESSOR (Russia)
2. Complain less about the defenders (America, Europe, Ukraine (part of Europe), Israel)

Now THAT would be more logical, right?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You said:
“The majority in the US, especially among Republicans are conservatives, are sick of wasting money and military assets fighting...”

My answer:
Your statement is false.
A clear majority of Americans (54%) want to continue helping Ukraine to defend not only itself, but at the same time Europe and AND America by severely depleting and crippling Russias military capability. Only 43% of Americans prefer to find a way to end the war quickly, by letting Ukraine lose territory.


84 posted on 12/26/2023 6:37:37 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: BabaOreally; Rocco DiPippo; Allegra; ransomnote; fieldmarshaldj; kiryandil
--- "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, to you too!"

What a pleasant message. It suggests that you have learned from the law of the garbage truck.

"...the law of the garbage truck" - claimed as copyright, 2011, Galen C. Dalrymple

"...how she learned “the law of the garbage truck”: ...

Earlier versions, suggesting this "law" has been around awhile.
The law of the garbage truck, David Pollay's TED talk in 2016

The Law of the Garbage Truck!® - David J. Pollay, circa 2010

Goodreads notes the book as 244 pages, Hardcover, 2010

The Law of Garbage Trucks -- by nickgrand, posted Jan 28, 2008


85 posted on 12/26/2023 6:41:38 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: USA-FRANCE
If we have violent passengers in cabin No. 55 (drunk Russians) who decides to go berserk and set their neighbor cabin No. 56 (occupied by an Ukrainian couple) on fire... and imagine if the other passengers from the other cabins nearby decides to ignore that fire... saying “it’s not OUR cabin burning thus not OUR business to do anything about it”. Well... what would happen??

Here's a proper analogy:

Imagine a train full of Ukrainians. The majority are Ukrainian nationalists, a good number of neo-Nazis leanings. The rest are ethnically Russian and/or don't care for the Ukraine nationalists and neo-Nazis. These two groups dislike each intensely.

A conductor has managed to keep the peace on the train. But, the Ukrainian nationalists want the ethnic Russians and their allies off the train. So, they throw the conductor off the train, hijack it and demand the ethnic Russians and their supporters jump off the train. They refuse to do so. One of the Russians on the train has ties to the Russian government and requests its help to rescue himself and the others being threatened. The Russia government agrees to intervene and saves the lives of the passengers.

86 posted on 12/26/2023 6:53:44 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

You said:
“Imagine a train full of Ukrainians. The majority are Ukrainian nationalists, a good number of neo-Nazis leanings.”

My answer:
Your analogy is desperately forgetting to mention one thing... that “the train” you are talking about is actually UKRAINE. Thus, if Ukrainians are nationalists within Ukraine’s borders, what is the problem?? They can be nationalists in their very own country, right?

Russia’s Government is both Neo Soviet and nationalist. Right? That have the right to be that way, but ONLY WITHIN Russia! They can’t play Russian nationalists in OTHER NATIONS, in nations which aren’t theirs to begin with. Right?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Then you said:

“So, they throw the conductor off the train, hijack it and demand the ethnic Russians and their supporters jump off the train.”

My answer:
You do know that the “conductor” (Viktor Yanukovych) you are talking about has acted as an absolute Russian SPY working foremost for Russia’s interests while he was president for Ukraine!
Viktor Yanukovych, president of Ukraine at the time, actually asked Russia to invade Ukraine with Russian troops in order to eliminate patriotic Ukrainian demonstrators!
That is called HIGH TREASON.

Imagine if Reagan had said: “Hey Russia, please invade America so you can eliminate our American Patriots!” Well in such a scenario Reagan would have gotten the death penalty for high treason. Right?

By the way... Viktor Yanukovych is now hiding in Russia, well protected by his Russian employers in the Kremlin.

Ukraine’s ex-president Viktor Yanukovych found guilty of treason
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/25/ukraine-ex-president-viktor-yanukovych-found-guilty-of-treason


87 posted on 12/26/2023 7:36:20 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: BabaOreally

There’s a significant Ukrainian community here in northern England been here for years. The eldest are all Russian speakers only because they grew up when the Ukrainian language was being forcibly suppressed, yet they are the “ethnic Russians” that Putin and Denisov lie about constantly.

Most of them are from the Donbas.

They’re not here to get away from Nazis. They’re here to get away from a tiny minority within a minority of delusional Russian Ukrainians who hijacked power in Donetsk thinking that they’d get very rich and powerful very quickly if they sided with Putin to drag south Ukraine into Russia’s borders.

Donbas hasn’t once seen democracy and the rule of law under the DPR. The DPR doesn’t have any democratic legitimacy. It never had popular support even in Donetsk.

It’s an armed takeover by the worst kind of gangsters.... The ones who are fully brainwashed members of the cult of Revanchism, making the rules up as they go and spouting complete lies in their defense.

They jumped the gun in 2014 by taking over Donetsk and Lugansk thinking they’d have as easy a ride as the Russian hijackers operating in Crimea. They were met with 80% apathy and passive resistance, but increased the membership of the Ukrainian far right nationalists.

At one point the klepto Vranyo merchants whined to Moscow that they needed boots on the ground because they couldn’t even rally 500 citizens into a public square for a demonstration.

They were that unpopular even in the cities under their control, they feared imminent revolt. Denisov was so desperate to hang on that he manufactured an “imminent genocide” against Russian Ukrainians that was never going to happen, and “evacuated” thousands into Russia, to convince the Kremlin to finally put boots on the ground.

Mark my words. When this war ends, Denisov and the other separatists will join Stremousov in the pile of scapegoats meeting unfortunate accidents, and Putin will put them all in the frame for exaggerating their case


89 posted on 12/27/2023 2:17:38 AM PST by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: AdmSmith; Alter Kaker; Apparatchik; AZJeep; BabaOreally; babble-on; BeauBo; bert; blitz128; ...

Free Republic Resolution for a Happy New Year

Use the Grey rocking on FR.
The grey rock method: a tactic to deal with conflict and abuse, manipulative behavior to support invasion of Ukraine and stand against Freedom for Ukraine.

The idea is abusive people, especially those with NPD, enjoy getting reactions from their victims.
THEREFORE, by Grey rocking just skimming over their “foolishness” of their comments refuses to reward their behavior!

Emotional abuse from these individuals include a range of tactics to either deliberately harm or exploit a person to benefit themselves.

NOTE: some examples used on thread:

• intentionally humiliating a person
• calling them names
• deliberately attempting to make a person feel worthless or unsafe [I know where you live]
• attempting to control the opinion or POV of another Freeper

Practical application for the Gray Rock method on Free Republic: we all can recognize the insulting, name-calling Freepers using “Garbage truck behavior.”

“The Law of the Garbage Truck Poem”
by Restless Warrior:

One day I hopped in a taxi and we took off for the airport.
We were driving in the right lane when suddenly a black car jumped out of a parking space right in front of us.
My taxi driver slammed on his brakes, skidded, and missed the other car by just inches! The driver of the other car whipped his head around and started yelling at us.
My taxi driver just smiled and waved at the guy. And I mean, he was really friendly.

So I asked, ‘Why did you just do that? This guy almost ruined your car and sent us to the hospital!’
This is when my taxi driver taught me what I now call, ‘The Law of the Garbage Truck.’

He explained that many people are like garbage trucks. They run around full of garbage, full of frustration, full of anger, and full of disappointment. As their garbage piles up, they need a place to dump it and sometimes they’ll dump it on you.

Don’t take it personally.

Just smile, wave, wish them well, and move on. Don’t take their garbage and spread it to other people at work, at home, or on the streets.

The bottom line is that successful people do not let garbage trucks take over their day.

Life’s too short to wake up in the morning with regrets,
so … Love the people who treat you right.
Pray for the ones who don’t

Life is ten percent what you make it and ninety percent how you take it!

Have a garbage-free day!

– Restless Warrior-


91 posted on 12/27/2023 3:58:59 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: Kazan
Not this again.

Pew Research, Most Poles accept Jews as fellow citizens and neighbors, but a minority do not

Look at the map of European attitudes towards Jews as citizens, Pew found this:

Strange, how the pro-Russian faction here insists that Ukraine, one of the most welcoming countries to Jews, has rampant antisemitism.

These are the same posters who ignore Russia's antisemitism, neonazis, and racist history toward Jews.

92 posted on 12/27/2023 6:08:14 AM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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93 posted on 12/27/2023 10:34:16 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
In other words:


94 posted on 12/27/2023 10:50:22 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

95 posted on 12/27/2023 10:52:22 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: Widget Jr

MORE UKRAINIAN HISTORY

Ukraine rates the 4th in the number of people recognized as “Righteous Among the Nations” for saving Jews during the Holocaust.

The history of the Jews in Ukraine goes back over a thousand years. Jewish communities have existed in the territory of Ukraine from the time of the Kievan Rus’ (late 9th to mid-13th century). Some of the most important Jewish religious and cultural movements, from Hasidism to Zionism, rose either fully or to an extensive degree in the territory of modern Ukraine. According to the World Jewish Congress, the Jewish community in Ukraine constitutes the third-largest in Europe and the fifth-largest in the world.

In the Ukrainian People’s Republic (1917-1920), Yiddish was declared a state language, along with Ukrainian and Russian. At that time, the Jewish National Union was created and the community was granted an autonomous status.

Yiddish was used on Ukrainian currency in this same period, between 1917 and 1920. Before World War II, slightly less than 1/3 of Ukraine’s urban population consisted of Jews; they were the largest national minority in Ukraine.

More than one million Jews were shot and killed by the Einsatzgruppen [paramilitary death squads of Nazi Germany] were responsible for mass-murder, primarily by shooting, during World War II (1939–1945) in German-occupied Europe.

As ordered by Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, the Wehrmacht cooperated with the Einsatzgruppen, providing logistical support for their operations, and participated in the mass murders. Historian Raul Hilberg estimates that between 1941 and 1945 the Einsatzgruppen, related agencies, and foreign auxiliary personnel murdered more than two million people, including 1.3 million of the 5.5 to 6 million Jews murdered during the Holocaust.


96 posted on 12/27/2023 11:58:08 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

“Don’t take it personally.”

I don’t. Some of the people doing these things are actual Russians and it’s their job. You can test them by asking them to say something nice about America.

Keep in mind this is Free Republic. That shouldn’t be a big challenge around here.

But for some it is.

Granted, a few genuinely hate America and that makes you wonder why they’re here.

And then there’s those that always vomit on America, they hate our allies, and they always speak of Russia and Putin in the most glowing terms. If you watch Russian media you’ll see these people parrot Russian talking points just hours after you hear them on Russian media.

After some time of seeing this pattern over and over it’s clear this is no coincidence.

And, of course, they’ll be along shortly to call me delusional, insane, disturbed, paranoid or some other extremely popular Russian form of insult.

They can’t help it. It’s their job.


97 posted on 12/27/2023 7:10:04 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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